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this hope radio for the masses headliner

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between July 8 1947 beyond the airport

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with has announced that a flying there -

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found and is now in the possession of

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the RA the game is rigged change the

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game game changer I occasionally think

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how quickly our differences worldwide

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would vanish if we were facing an alien

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this is baby black with your host Jimmy

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church on the game changer radio network

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need your help to get to the year

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you are listening to fade to black with

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Jimmy judge on the game change in that

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good evening fade to black

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this spoke radio

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math says sigh yeah today's Monday March

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69 days into the new year only 297 days

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left we are live from a bunker a bunker

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that is in the middle of beautiful

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downtown Burbank California and I would

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like to welcome everybody listening all

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around the world all across the United

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back and forth up and down east and west

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the bits it's made the black for KGC are

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the game changer Network in kg ra the

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planets I'm Yours Timmy Church

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what is cracking everybody how you doing

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how you doing I'm doing pretty good just

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got back from Vegas

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full weekend in Vegas more on that in

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just a bit tonight tonight and every

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night from now on we are broadcasting

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live on YouTube Twitter Facebook in

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addition to Katie are a talk stream live

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that's pretty dang cool and on the first

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of the month April 1st April Fool's Day

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Monday is in April we're kicking in a

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another broadcasting affiliate another

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but they're going to be doing this with

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you'll be able to listen there too as

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well their audience and we've been doing

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tests on Mondays and everything is solid

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so there you go all right more and that

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will announce that when we're ready to

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pull the trigger but that'll be a first

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first Monday of April that'll be kicking

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off tonight on the show back for more

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Chris Bledsoe is here he is back to

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continue our conversation from last week

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and it was a heck of a show great

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conversation great guy and on January 8

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2007 Chris came face to face with an

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extraterrestrial beings and at missing

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time although he wouldn't recall the

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details of that first terrifying

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encounter until hypnosis a full year and

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a half later well on the banks of the

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Cape Fear River Chris his son Chris jr.

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and three of his subcontractors

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discovered that they were about to

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experience the most harrowing day of

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their lives involving unexplained

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phenomena leading them to believe

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that this was the end of the world now

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MUFON sent their highest trained team to

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investigate the encounter only to

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attempt to debunk and ridicule the

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Bledsoe family their experience was

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featured on Discovery Channel's 2008

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series UFOs over earth

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the Fayetteville incidents now multiple

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three-letter agencies have been involved

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with the blood-soaked case bringing

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increased attention and mystery to this

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ever-evolving a story you can follow

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chris over on his Facebook page and it's

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a CL Bledsoe and we've got the links to

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Chris's Facebook page right there a

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2-meter it's radio calm I would like to

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welcome back to fade to black

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Chris Bledsoe senior got to make sure we

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get the senior in there Chris yeah I

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like the giggle does anybody call you

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senior uh well there's starting to catch

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on there's ginger now is thirty years

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old and we spend a lot of time together

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so I get that quite a bit

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wow he's thirty yeah I guess that makes

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sense when you look at he's just a kid

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in the burning tree video yeah yeah Wow

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where does the time go when you're a

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parent we'll jump into our conversation

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in a second but isn't it amazing when

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you become a parent I'm a parent read as

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a parent when you become a parent the

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years just disappear they're like they

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never happened

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how do we what's the secret man how do

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will it's just spend every minute you

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have with your children that's the most

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important thing one can do believe yeah

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do you have any grandkids got one on the

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way Chris juniors us up first and he's

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expecting his wife no his wife is

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expecting in Jessica expecting in May

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right on see that's the cycle of life

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right there that's the cycle of life

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that's amazing that's absolutely amazing

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well Chris as expected

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the show last week caused a lot of

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conversation I had not expected all of

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that and very you know nothing but

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positive flow and energy came off of

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last week's conversation and we knew

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well this is we knew that we would run

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out of time last week and I appreciate

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you taking the time to come back this

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week and finish up and one of the things

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which I just did right now I want to do

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a little bit of a recap not much because

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there's one thing actually let's kind of

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start here let's just let's go straight

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into it with everything that happened

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after the 2007 incident as time went by

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did you start to forget about what

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happened at the Cape Fear River because

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of all of the other things that were

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happening did it did it seem like Cape

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and your three employees that it was a

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distant memory well not really I mean it

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caused so much trouble and everything

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else with it I could never forget it I

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mean I relive it and I tell you Jimmy

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it's the first I would say the first

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five or six years after that I I

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couldn't tell it without getting

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emotional it was just impossible because

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I had to relive you know finding my son

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in the position he was just panicked you

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know he was he was in shock and anyone

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would be to have a face-to-face

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encounter like that and and so no I can

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never forget it I remember every detail

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just like I see it clearly and we try to

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forget about it I've tried many times

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but it just just don't go away the

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events last week we touched upon the

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and we're gonna go much much deeper into

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that subject tonight and the other

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things that followed over the years I

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just want to ask a very direct question

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at this point the events at the river

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seemed to me from the way that you've

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described it appear alien UFO encounter

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close encounter of the 3rd 4th or 5th

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kind that's what that seems to me what

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happened later seems to almost be

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something different but they must be

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connected are they connected it's all

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connected and I've said this for you

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know 13 years and it went on death ears

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for a long time everybody wanted to hear

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of a spiritual encounter because that's

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what it was I mean I was at that time in

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my life I was praying for the Lord to

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help me or attack me whoever that was or

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it is up there and I was walking along

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looking up and saying I need help and I

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was very sincere and I heard these I

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called him orbs right but they're

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40-foot round balls of fire came out of

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the sky and then it all went from there

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after we got home I started showing up

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in the house my wife and children were

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seeing them as many as two at the time

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and stuff moving in the house objects

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flinging off the shelves toothbrushes

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missing one day and another one the next

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and I mean just all kinds of stuff and

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lights in the sky so I don't know Jimmy

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I wish we could all get past this if

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it's real and and get our minds together

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all these smart scientists they're

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brilliant scientists that are afraid to

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even study this because of ridicule and

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until we get past that

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we're going to be asking these questions

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forever it's so deep I can't begin to

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tell you it never ceases to amaze me

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now this office all connected and you

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you live in we talked about this last

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week I don't want to believe this but

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you live in a very religious part of the

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country and most of the people that live

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in that area of the country feel that

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they understand the Bible they go to

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church they read the Bible they've got

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their own take on it and they feel that

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they fully get it I have done the same

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thing and I am from the Midwest the one

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thing that I have now started to move

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towards is that if i read the bible and

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i just insert aliens or et throughout

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the bible it starts to make sense it

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just makes sense to me and is that where

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you are at now that the thoughts of you

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know moses or or with these these

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components of the bible where they were

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interacting with what you're interacting

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with now but they made a religious

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component to it throughout history

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because they didn't understand that they

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may be communicating with a supernatural

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or paranormal or ET that is here from

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off-planet

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and that's what angels are and that's

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what that you know it is is that a

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possibility from your view yeah

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absolutely in fact let me kind of tell

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you why I say the word angel and I don't

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say alien because alien has been

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perverted so bad it reminds me of

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Sigourney Weaver and this this crab

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looking spider like monster the spits

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acid out of his face

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that to me B becomes alien but I use the

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word angel for a reason and that reason

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is is the way it reacts it doesn't react

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like some Pleiadian or some being from

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another planet it's always around us

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Jimmy it's listening all the time

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I can walk outside just about and I

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don't want to boast but it happens a lot

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either with my family or with others go

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out and I just asked ask them I need to

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see you and it boom they appear they

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come right then a lot of times

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immediately a lot of times I walk out

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and they're waiting for me to come out

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the door so how do you explain this

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thing when you asked for help and they

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come that was with the Chrome's and now

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they I just know by communication with

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them that they act more like they

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they're always there and for different

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reasons I can't explain it but Diane up

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a Sulkin I studied for years about this

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and she has a lot of things she shared

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with me that totally links it with the

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Bible like you know Ezekiel's will or

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the word cloud if you use the word cloud

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and and in the Bible if you put it in a

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program like Bob will get where it'll

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come up close to a hundred times and and

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it is always usually always talking

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about Jesus coming with the clouds of

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heaven coming back with the clouds or

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returning in the clouds or on the clouds

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or with the clouds and then we find out

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that King James intentionally this is a

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little birdie told me this mistranslated

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that word so it would look like a

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weather phenomenon rather than an object

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in the sky so you see it's it's quite a

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mystery reason I use angel is because of

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the way it reacts it listens

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and it helps people and I've heard it

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can hurt people as well so I don't know

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yeah and I have found this is my own

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personal experience but I have found

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that and you know ce-5 protocols and

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people going out and and meditating and

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and conscious connections to something

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appearing and my own

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excuse me something in my throat I'll

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give you a perfect example myself and a

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group of friends this is a six years ago

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seven years ago were out in Joshua Tree

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in the middle of the desert Chris I'm

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gonna make this very brief I just want

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you to hear what happened to us and

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somebody says we're out on the patio out

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in the middle of the desert

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10 11 o'clock at night somebody says hey

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wouldn't it be cool if we saw a UFO

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Chris at that moment this white ball of

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light shoots up from the middle of the

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desert floor straight up into the stars

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and that lasted about two seconds

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ditional at that exact moment we all saw

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it we were all in shock we're all like

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did that that was on cue is is does it

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have to be any more clear than that when

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we're talking about some type of

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communication that is going on right

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yeah well 13 years of that happening all

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the time I mean like all the time I

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pretty much anytime I want to

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if I'm alone or with my kids it's not

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afraid to come and it comes with others

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like John Alexander and dr. McGuire and

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chase clusky and different ones that

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have come here with me a lot of people

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but how do you get alien out of

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something that's interacting with you're

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listening to you guiding you and I have

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other reasons for saying that I don't

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really know

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I can't honestly say what we're dealing

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with but I can honestly say how it

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interacts with me and that's what 10

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lends me the belief that it's not the

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typical nuts and bolts alien it's more

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like something that's here watching us

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maybe created us as benevolent cares

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about us you know that's just general

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fault

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well after after 2008 let's let's get

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past the MUFON side of this Oh I spoke

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to a Jan Harz Ann today and Jan we

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talked about too briefly and he said

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that I'm gonna tell you two things that

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he said he said one he said that

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MUFON fully supports you and and your

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case and that it's one of the most

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interesting and intriguing cases he has

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ever heard of and then he said I asked

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him I said but would you guys be

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interested in reopening the case and he

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said you know absolutely so I'm just

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thought that that's MUFON stake today

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and I think that they are fully and

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hearing from Janet's with such a

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positive response I know that she had a

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bad experience but that was his his

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comments today about you so let's move

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past the MUFON a period here will move

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past the lie-detector the TV show but as

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you started to get settled back in

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trying to get your life back together

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which is a very difficult period for you

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and I think that you have mentioned that

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you started to go into a little bit of

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seclusion that you weren't communicating

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and you were hanging out at the house

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constantly when you went through this

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period whose

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who came and visited you first

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interested in the case to come and speak

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to you about it who came to the house I

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would have been probably the first guy

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that came now this is this is after

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MUFON you know June of 2008 they they

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were there pretty much the first six

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months of 2008 the first year nobody

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because I didn't report it until October

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and soon as MUFON left around June or

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July the Chris Ryan my youngest boy

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calls me and says dad there's someone

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from NASA here he'd like to meet you and

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I said well if he it's going to be an

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hour for IB can get home service if he

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wants to meet me bad enough he'll stick

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around well that's what I told him

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and sure enough when I got home here's a

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six foot six tall scientist from from

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Florida had drove up blindly just

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knocking on the door and that turned

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into a wonderful relationship with my

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wife and children and how papa Myers

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wife Katie which she's probably

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listening tonight mean he passed away

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this past October how do you say how do

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you say his last name how do you spell

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it

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this pavan POV en mi RA Hal Pavan Mayer

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and he's he was right at 60 years at

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NASA and he had all his clearances when

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he passed away and it was an astronomer

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for 50-plus years he won all kinds of

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astronomy awards that have asteroids

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named after him and he discovered the

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epsilon Pegasus meteor shower and he

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mapped the moon

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was working at NASA before NASA was

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called NASA he was with Wernher von

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Braun

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in the 56 57 58 through that time range

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and he worked on the space shuttle so

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but we learned a lot and he kind of

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nurtured this family and he he asked me

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many times and I probably shouldn't say

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but he told us I would say around two

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thousand and thirteen or fourteen he

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said he said you know NASA's going to be

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or the government is going to be letting

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loose a little bit of secrets in the

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next few years and we were just

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wondering if your family would like to

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to be a face to this disclosure thing

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for us and of course we were honored and

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he never changed that position the whole

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time up until he died but we we studied

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a lot and there were a lot of other

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people that came how was the first one

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yeah very interesting background for

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somebody like that you know an

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astronomer he's a NASA engineer but now

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he's at your house and he's at your

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house for UFOs he's not at your house to

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a you know drop off candy or a pizza

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he's there because of the UFO side of

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things had he had sightings or contact

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or or some other information he came

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very close with how what what was it

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that he disclosed to you about his

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interest of contacting you well first

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thing fact I had to honor meeting Paul

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Hynek a couple of weeks ago in San

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Francisco I told Paul that dr. Pavel

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Meier actually graduated from Ohio State

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with with J Allen Hynek he was his

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astronomy professor and so he worked he

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worked for Blue Book the whole time

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pretty much and he was the bee bunker

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that was his thing I mean everything was

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always nothing was real that was the

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approach he took he could find a hole

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and any

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from you know that's what he did but

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when he came to visit us and he started

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hearing from these little children and

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the whole family I think it he realized

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that was all real and right on really

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early on and even when my mother and dad

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were doubting me how went next door and

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told them no you need to support your

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son because what he's telling you is a

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hundred percent real yeah he wrote a

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book called UFOs an alien abduction

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phenomena a scientific analysis and so

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his interest was genuine and real who

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next

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home Lord that would be I there's some I

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can't say and they be scientists from

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some some scientists from the aerospace

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industry came dine apostle cos Tyler her

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friend she mentions came and fact I knew

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him several years before she would even

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meet him she was just always so not

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wanting to meet anybody like that but

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long story short he was one but I really

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can't use names there but it was

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scientist that's one of the reasons I

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went into went dark is that it was more

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interesting to me to study with all

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these people and learn some secrets and

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and and just learn together with all

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these professionals then to be out in

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the UFO world trying to to write books

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and and be popular and that was

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something they encouraged me not to do

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but now each one of these are one yeah

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we're gonna head towards a break

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real quick but when Hal shows up diana

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Tyler some scientists that we can't name

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now maybe I'll squeeze names out of you

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during the show tonight I'm really good

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at that Chris and Jim semi van right

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Yeah right Jim a long time and John

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Alexander did all of these people that

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showed up at your house did all of them

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have their own supernatural or

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paranormal experience well Jim actually

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did he sure did John Alexander John

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really didn't have anything that he ever

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talked about for 50 years that man has

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gone around the world he's like the

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leading paranormal investigator with the

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military I can assure you he's traveled

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58 but like 80 or 90 countries he's been

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- he spoke up one time he saw lights

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just fly over up high that he ruled out

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being a satellite but with me what he

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saw was a lot closer and it appeared it

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appeared within seconds after I told him

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it would and I how Papa Meir did he have

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any experiences with you

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he had an orb flavor with me in the

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backyard very low and kind of he was it

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was it was just gotten over a

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gallbladder surgery and it was real cold

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and here now we're out in the backyard

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with blankets around his cyber saw

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outside just having a good time and

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something appeared down fairly low and

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through across the sky and tomorrow

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night

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artificial intelligence scientist Bob

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McGuire is gonna be here to talk about

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AI but he's also visited your home did

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did he did he have any experiences yeah

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and you should ask him about that okay

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it was my son Ryan recorded one of the

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sightings we had but there was

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was an amazing experience that that I

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walked out with him and looked up at the

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sky and asked a direct question if it be

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your will for me to work with mr. Lenoir

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because he came with a proposal about

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working on his new company that he'll

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talk about for imaging or tracking

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tracking Network alright well listen I

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need to take a break right here that's a

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pretty long solid list of researchers

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Chris pretty pretty extensive we'll pick

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up what we're leaving off right now when

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we come back up to this short break

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tonight Chris blood so this is fade to

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black I'm here Jimmy Church stay with us

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we'll be right back

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[Music]

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welcome back beta black coming Oh

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signature our guest tonight Chris

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Bledsoe and I want to remind everybody

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we have a huge week here on fade to

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black

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tomorrow night Bob McGuire is here

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00:30:23,670 --> 00:30:21,730
Wednesday night dr. Diana

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pisanka is gonna join us Thursday

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night's gonna be another Fator night

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with open lines all night long now Chris

549
00:30:36,180 --> 00:30:31,870
I want to kind of move into this this

550
00:30:39,540 --> 00:30:36,190
next phase of your life and I want to

551
00:30:41,700 --> 00:30:39,550
touch upon I don't want to call them

552
00:30:46,350 --> 00:30:41,710
entities I don't have another word but

553
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:46,360
you you start to encounter you did see

554
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:51,850
stuff back in 2007 but moving forward

555
00:31:01,260 --> 00:30:59,130
here these images of these beings

556
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:01,270
appeared to be and I want you to

557
00:31:06,930 --> 00:31:03,610
describe them the best that you can but

558
00:31:08,910 --> 00:31:06,940
they seem to be with and without form

559
00:31:11,580 --> 00:31:08,920
that that's the best way that I can

560
00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:11,590
describe it there's a shape there but

561
00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:13,960
not necessarily details am i describing

562
00:31:23,370 --> 00:31:18,850
this correctly well it's all according

563
00:31:27,870 --> 00:31:23,380
to how in other words I've witnessed

564
00:31:31,740 --> 00:31:27,880
these things from coming from an orb I

565
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:31,750
actually have a video of an orb and as

566
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:35,410
it appears you see this 6-foot entity

567
00:31:41,340 --> 00:31:38,320
and the flash come out of the Lord and

568
00:31:44,810 --> 00:31:41,350
the orb stays there and the entities the

569
00:31:47,310 --> 00:31:44,820
flash for a second but then it's like

570
00:31:48,870 --> 00:31:47,320
translucent so it comes into our world

571
00:31:50,610 --> 00:31:48,880
and then it's translucent they're

572
00:31:53,370 --> 00:31:50,620
walking around us all the time you just

573
00:31:56,430 --> 00:31:53,380
can't see them but they can actually

574
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turn I would say something like a

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00:32:01,470 --> 00:31:59,380
rheostat that's how we could imagine it

576
00:32:05,640 --> 00:32:01,480
they can turn that thing up and they can

577
00:32:07,610 --> 00:32:05,650
become more visible into our world so

578
00:32:10,410 --> 00:32:07,620
it's the cordon way you see them if

579
00:32:14,550 --> 00:32:10,420
they're tuned in they can come fully

580
00:32:17,160 --> 00:32:14,560
physical into our world or they can be

581
00:32:18,090 --> 00:32:17,170
smoky looking like I have I have

582
00:32:22,310 --> 00:32:18,100
pictures of them

583
00:32:24,330 --> 00:32:22,320
to where they look kind of like smoke

584
00:32:27,390 --> 00:32:24,340
that's a good way to say it

585
00:32:29,490 --> 00:32:27,400
Yeah right and I'm picturing you too by

586
00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:29,500
the way it's it's a little bit scary

587
00:32:36,690 --> 00:32:34,930
when we think of it this way but it

588
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:36,700
should be I don't know if we should

589
00:32:40,950 --> 00:32:39,010
never be fully comfortable with with

590
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:40,960
something like this but if you're

591
00:32:47,100 --> 00:32:43,570
looking at something with a smoky shape

592
00:32:50,490 --> 00:32:47,110
in in front of you are you seeing things

593
00:32:53,910 --> 00:32:50,500
like arms and legs and a head is there

594
00:32:59,190 --> 00:32:53,920
that general shape when they're in this

595
00:33:02,130 --> 00:32:59,200
smoky existence yes can be or they can

596
00:33:03,780 --> 00:33:02,140
be just pure elemental looking of course

597
00:33:06,990 --> 00:33:03,790
that could be totally something

598
00:33:10,020 --> 00:33:07,000
different but usually if you see orbs

599
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:10,030
flashing and I don't know how many

600
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:11,650
people see these things in the

601
00:33:18,330 --> 00:33:13,990
individual spectrum but John Alexander

602
00:33:21,570 --> 00:33:18,340
talks about it that these orbs appear

603
00:33:25,050 --> 00:33:21,580
and they come completely into the visual

604
00:33:27,900 --> 00:33:25,060
spectrum it's like dr. McGuire said when

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00:33:30,060 --> 00:33:27,910
he came here you know I just asked him

606
00:33:34,380 --> 00:33:30,070
to appear and they started appearing and

607
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:34,390
we didn't need night vision or any of

608
00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:37,090
that I mean I take pictures with my

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00:33:40,680 --> 00:33:39,100
camera phone that's how I usually get

610
00:33:44,700 --> 00:33:40,690
them so you know they've got to be in

611
00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:44,710
the visible spectrum and really close up

612
00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:48,850
but I have caught a lot of stuff on

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00:33:55,860 --> 00:33:53,950
camera and and you know let Bob tell you

614
00:33:59,300 --> 00:33:55,870
his experience if you can get it out of

615
00:34:02,190 --> 00:33:59,310
him now these are these videos and

616
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:02,200
you've offered to send me the videos I

617
00:34:06,270 --> 00:34:04,210
haven't taken you up on the offer yet

618
00:34:08,850 --> 00:34:06,280
but I have the feeling after the show

619
00:34:12,510 --> 00:34:08,860
tonight I want while my inbox filled up

620
00:34:15,690 --> 00:34:12,520
with some crisp lentsoe action but are

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we ever going to see your video

622
00:34:22,140 --> 00:34:19,660
collection I would say probably so dr.

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00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:22,150
McGuire is gonna come here and help me

624
00:34:26,970 --> 00:34:24,370
sort through these things and process

625
00:34:29,010 --> 00:34:26,980
them so when he puts his name on it you

626
00:34:31,300 --> 00:34:29,020
know pretty well can tell you if it's

627
00:34:34,030 --> 00:34:31,310
real or not bright and

628
00:34:37,270 --> 00:34:34,040
there's one video that I'll send you

629
00:34:39,940 --> 00:34:37,280
tonight that I really haven't I shared

630
00:34:42,550 --> 00:34:39,950
it at the the conference in San

631
00:34:46,300 --> 00:34:42,560
Francisco but I really heard it publicly

632
00:34:48,490 --> 00:34:46,310
we haven't released it and but I think

633
00:34:51,130 --> 00:34:48,500
there nobody will be able to debunk it

634
00:34:51,700 --> 00:34:51,140
period and it was taken right over my

635
00:34:55,510 --> 00:34:51,710
head

636
00:35:00,310 --> 00:34:55,520
150 feet up well maybe 200 feet away

637
00:35:03,070 --> 00:35:00,320
it's fully in focus it's not blurry and

638
00:35:05,860 --> 00:35:03,080
it's an orb and it appeared it when I

639
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:05,870
asked it to I mean immediately it

640
00:35:11,350 --> 00:35:08,090
appeared I got a good pretty good visual

641
00:35:12,820 --> 00:35:11,360
a video of it and I think we'll I'll

642
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:12,830
send you that a night and see what you

643
00:35:14,860 --> 00:35:13,250
think

644
00:35:19,090 --> 00:35:14,870
yeah I would love to see it I would love

645
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:19,100
to see it do you think that this is what

646
00:35:25,750 --> 00:35:22,610
people have been seeing as ghosts for

647
00:35:28,660 --> 00:35:25,760
the last few thousand years I think so

648
00:35:31,450 --> 00:35:28,670
I think it's everything is the I

649
00:35:33,940 --> 00:35:31,460
couldn't even begin to tell you what all

650
00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:33,950
we're dealing with I think there are

651
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:37,610
aliens there ghosts there and some of

652
00:35:43,060 --> 00:35:40,010
these orbs Jimmy have clear pictures of

653
00:35:46,210 --> 00:35:43,070
my dog I've got a dog that got killed by

654
00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:46,220
a car and I took a picture over her

655
00:35:54,220 --> 00:35:48,290
grave a couple of weeks after she passed

656
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:54,230
away and this visible orb of my black

657
00:36:00,100 --> 00:35:57,290
Labrador is in that ball of light so you

658
00:36:02,890 --> 00:36:00,110
tell me and children and people and

659
00:36:05,650 --> 00:36:02,900
animals so there's something going

660
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:05,660
around on all around us that we can't

661
00:36:14,410 --> 00:36:11,930
see and I mean it's so deep layers of

662
00:36:18,850 --> 00:36:14,420
stuff probably dimensions upon

663
00:36:25,050 --> 00:36:18,860
dimensions extra who knows now your

664
00:36:28,270 --> 00:36:25,060
family okay so your family is

665
00:36:31,390 --> 00:36:28,280
experiencing something but they weren't

666
00:36:34,930 --> 00:36:31,400
telling you and and I want to I want to

667
00:36:37,450 --> 00:36:34,940
speak about this for a second why why

668
00:36:39,130 --> 00:36:37,460
didn't they they know that things are

669
00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:39,140
going on they know about the Cape Fear

670
00:36:44,530 --> 00:36:42,050
River incident they move find the the

671
00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:44,540
people coming out and they're seeing

672
00:36:47,410 --> 00:36:45,290
things

673
00:36:49,630 --> 00:36:47,420
around the house but they're not sharing

674
00:36:52,350 --> 00:36:49,640
it with you why why didn't they why

675
00:36:55,450 --> 00:36:52,360
didn't they talk to you about it well

676
00:36:57,850 --> 00:36:55,460
they didn't for the first 10 or months

677
00:37:00,460 --> 00:36:57,860
or so told actually until I reported it

678
00:37:03,130 --> 00:37:00,470
because that's when I really found out

679
00:37:05,470 --> 00:37:03,140
what they had been seeing because when

680
00:37:11,020 --> 00:37:05,480
move funds local investigator came the

681
00:37:13,930 --> 00:37:11,030
first one Steve McDaniel my wife sat

682
00:37:15,640 --> 00:37:13,940
down very quietly and she looked at him

683
00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:15,650
and she said what do you know about

684
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:21,620
shadow people right was going on with

685
00:37:27,760 --> 00:37:25,430
you guys that I haven't heard about yeah

686
00:37:29,530 --> 00:37:27,770
that did you ask your wife why haven't

687
00:37:32,890 --> 00:37:29,540
you been telling me about this this is

688
00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:32,900
important it's because we were like kind

689
00:37:41,070 --> 00:37:38,090
of I was I was feeling pressure Jimmy

690
00:37:45,640 --> 00:37:41,080
not to ever share it publicly because

691
00:37:48,490 --> 00:37:45,650
you know the churched and my mom and dad

692
00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:48,500
the whole world my wife was definitely

693
00:37:53,770 --> 00:37:50,930
afraid about our children being scared

694
00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:53,780
and they didn't know what it was we were

695
00:38:00,400 --> 00:37:56,690
dealing with and we were left with no

696
00:38:02,170 --> 00:38:00,410
answers this stuff was going on so the

697
00:38:05,680 --> 00:38:02,180
fear factor was at a hundred percent

698
00:38:10,150 --> 00:38:05,690
around the house and of course I kept

699
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:10,160
sharing it with them my kids every time

700
00:38:14,260 --> 00:38:12,500
my wife would come to the door we're all

701
00:38:17,500 --> 00:38:14,270
standing there looking at it just blinks

702
00:38:19,960 --> 00:38:17,510
out before she gets there and so I kept

703
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:19,970
thinking darn they got to see it I got

704
00:38:25,240 --> 00:38:22,640
to see it but she didn't and that went

705
00:38:27,630 --> 00:38:25,250
on for the longest time until she and I

706
00:38:31,270 --> 00:38:27,640
was actually praying that they would all

707
00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:31,280
experience it so I wouldn't be by myself

708
00:38:37,390 --> 00:38:34,970
you know but we were trying to keep it

709
00:38:39,940 --> 00:38:37,400
under wraps and keep our children as

710
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:39,950
normal in school as possible without

711
00:38:45,610 --> 00:38:43,010
bringing fear not knowing what we were

712
00:38:48,970 --> 00:38:45,620
dealing with you know I had no clue what

713
00:38:50,350 --> 00:38:48,980
it was just these big balls of light

714
00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:50,360
came out of the sky

715
00:38:56,770 --> 00:38:53,330
my health was better but now weird stuff

716
00:38:58,510 --> 00:38:56,780
was going on really weird stuff these

717
00:38:59,030 --> 00:38:58,520
things were coming back landing in my

718
00:39:01,970 --> 00:38:59,040
yard

719
00:39:06,470 --> 00:39:01,980
have pictures of burnt rings in the

720
00:39:09,260 --> 00:39:06,480
grass hovering outside my wife took the

721
00:39:12,740 --> 00:39:09,270
kids to hook mills to see their grandma

722
00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:12,750
and on the way back this big tall looked

723
00:39:17,180 --> 00:39:14,670
like an ice cream cone she said flew

724
00:39:20,330 --> 00:39:17,190
right in front of them not how off the

725
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:20,340
road was big and just let him out of

726
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,210
town

727
00:39:25,970 --> 00:39:23,520
they came home calling the airport

728
00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:25,980
trying to find out if they had seen it

729
00:39:33,310 --> 00:39:30,480
on the radar so the first year we were

730
00:39:36,350 --> 00:39:33,320
kind of at one another but after that

731
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:36,360
when everybody left us that's when the

732
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:39,290
family gelled together and realized that

733
00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:42,000
this stuff is real we're all

734
00:39:48,110 --> 00:39:44,370
experiencing it and who's here to help

735
00:39:50,990 --> 00:39:48,120
us and we were scared to death really

736
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:51,000
and then here comes my friend from NASA

737
00:39:57,560 --> 00:39:55,050
pal and he just answered a lot of

738
00:39:59,720 --> 00:39:57,570
questions and soothed the family and

739
00:40:05,120 --> 00:39:59,730
kind of fell in love with my kids

740
00:40:10,850 --> 00:40:05,130
especially Emily which we so much

741
00:40:14,470 --> 00:40:10,860
appreciate him he's doing it the the

742
00:40:20,540 --> 00:40:14,480
lady let's let's let's talk about this

743
00:40:24,260 --> 00:40:20,550
the lady can you I've seen pictures some

744
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:24,270
illustrations but can you describe her

745
00:40:34,820 --> 00:40:29,690
for the audience what she looked like

746
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:34,830
she looked perfectly human except she

747
00:40:40,340 --> 00:40:37,890
was glowing very brightly she was

748
00:40:44,330 --> 00:40:40,350
hovering off the ground about 3 feet her

749
00:40:47,930 --> 00:40:44,340
feet were 3 feet or my chin if I'm a 6

750
00:40:50,510 --> 00:40:47,940
foot tall or 511 so on my knees I was on

751
00:40:53,570 --> 00:40:50,520
my knees about to get up when I raised

752
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:53,580
up there she was so her feet were about

753
00:41:02,120 --> 00:40:57,210
my chin hi say she was 5 feet tall maybe

754
00:41:05,030 --> 00:41:02,130
a little under her dress was white and

755
00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:05,040
sparkling like stars in the sky it was

756
00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:09,890
moving flowing her hair was blond or

757
00:41:21,110 --> 00:41:11,910
golden

758
00:41:22,940 --> 00:41:21,120
rich blue real blue her dress went all

759
00:41:24,890 --> 00:41:22,950
the way down she was barefooted went all

760
00:41:29,270 --> 00:41:24,900
the way down to the tops of her feet and

761
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:29,280
out to to the wrist on her arms and it

762
00:41:37,070 --> 00:41:32,610
was a necklace it wasn't open anywhere

763
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:37,080
and she just appeared out of nowhere

764
00:41:42,860 --> 00:41:40,890
come from out of a hole came this this

765
00:41:44,990 --> 00:41:42,870
huge bull and I didn't know the

766
00:41:46,790 --> 00:41:45,000
significance there let me tell you all

767
00:41:50,750 --> 00:41:46,800
this I don't know how anybody could

768
00:41:53,750 --> 00:41:50,760
imagine this in their wildest dreams but

769
00:41:56,750 --> 00:41:53,760
that's what got the attention of people

770
00:41:58,940 --> 00:41:56,760
in the know daughter Priscilla of course

771
00:42:01,730 --> 00:41:58,950
she you know she brings the Vatican

772
00:42:07,430 --> 00:42:01,740
behind her she's got a lot of contacts

773
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:07,440
and my friends from these three-letter

774
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:12,330
agencies all got very deeply in tune

775
00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:15,930
with what this lady was about and what

776
00:42:18,620 --> 00:42:16,800
she had to say

777
00:42:20,870 --> 00:42:18,630
I just promise you it got a lot of

778
00:42:25,550 --> 00:42:20,880
attention and still does to this day

779
00:42:30,260 --> 00:42:25,560
what she said how she looked that she's

780
00:42:34,300 --> 00:42:30,270
the same lady as a Fatima well let's

781
00:42:37,310 --> 00:42:34,310
let's actually stop right there the

782
00:42:41,540 --> 00:42:37,320
similarities between Fatima and your

783
00:42:46,010 --> 00:42:41,550
experience are astonishing it's very

784
00:42:49,300 --> 00:42:46,020
very close to the same story including

785
00:42:52,370 --> 00:42:49,310
the disclosure of things in the future

786
00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:52,380
and and I want to focus on that for a

787
00:43:00,740 --> 00:42:56,970
second the things that she said you said

788
00:43:05,720 --> 00:43:00,750
last weeks she said this is this is your

789
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:05,730
gig right this is your job and for this

790
00:43:10,730 --> 00:43:08,250
is your mission and and you are going to

791
00:43:17,330 --> 00:43:10,740
do this and I am going to help you right

792
00:43:21,620 --> 00:43:17,340
right okay and I understand I want to

793
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:21,630
know as with everybody else when we get

794
00:43:29,970 --> 00:43:23,890
to a moment in

795
00:43:33,029 --> 00:43:29,980
variants like this where the the actual

796
00:43:35,849 --> 00:43:33,039
disclosure of what was said is not there

797
00:43:38,250 --> 00:43:35,859
and that happened with Fatima the secret

798
00:43:41,789 --> 00:43:38,260
stayed with the Vatican and it would be

799
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:41,799
revealed at a later date and that that I

800
00:43:48,420 --> 00:43:46,450
think for most people is is is it's a

801
00:43:51,299 --> 00:43:48,430
disappointment we need to know these

802
00:43:54,599 --> 00:43:51,309
things what is it that she said to you

803
00:43:57,839 --> 00:43:54,609
Chris well there are a couple things

804
00:44:00,329 --> 00:43:57,849
that I'm not willing to tell at this

805
00:44:02,910 --> 00:44:00,339
moment but the biggest thing she told me

806
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:02,920
that I can tell you I was asked to put

807
00:44:10,049 --> 00:44:06,970
in writing for the Pentagon and I did

808
00:44:12,299 --> 00:44:10,059
that I handed it to the right person

809
00:44:15,740 --> 00:44:12,309
that could carry earth there and that

810
00:44:19,890 --> 00:44:15,750
was from their request that that matters

811
00:44:26,009 --> 00:44:19,900
but the biggest thing that that I gave

812
00:44:30,839 --> 00:44:26,019
to them was she told me that there are

813
00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:30,849
people in power on this planet that are

814
00:44:35,549 --> 00:44:33,190
using this is what I said it was

815
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:35,559
biblical you know I had this biblical

816
00:44:40,620 --> 00:44:37,930
thing put in there she said there were

817
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:40,630
people in power that are using the last

818
00:44:47,730 --> 00:44:43,210
book of the King James Bible or the Book

819
00:44:50,029 --> 00:44:47,740
of Revelations as a script to bring

820
00:44:52,380 --> 00:44:50,039
about the end of the world

821
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:52,390
they're doing it intentionally these

822
00:44:59,700 --> 00:44:54,609
people empowered I saw she said and that

823
00:45:05,839 --> 00:44:59,710
there was be a person that comes that

824
00:45:10,650 --> 00:45:05,849
would well I probably shouldn't say this

825
00:45:14,519 --> 00:45:10,660
it was about Jerusalem becoming the

826
00:45:17,789 --> 00:45:14,529
capital of Israel and that was us when

827
00:45:22,859 --> 00:45:17,799
that happened that was a marker for me

828
00:45:25,319 --> 00:45:22,869
to know that all this is happening as we

829
00:45:28,829 --> 00:45:25,329
speak but what is it that the people in

830
00:45:32,430 --> 00:45:28,839
power I expand on that what is it that

831
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:32,440
people are doing they're using the last

832
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:36,130
book of the Bible as a script to make

833
00:45:40,020 --> 00:45:37,750
things happen

834
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:40,030
just as the Bible says to bring about

835
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:42,490
the prophecy they want to fulfill the

836
00:45:46,650 --> 00:45:45,130
prophecy without it happening on its own

837
00:45:49,020 --> 00:45:46,660
there are people trying to make it

838
00:45:51,930 --> 00:45:49,030
happen and that was the basically the

839
00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:51,940
the word she gave to me and you wrote

840
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:54,550
that out and delivered that to the

841
00:45:58,350 --> 00:45:55,330
Pentagon

842
00:46:02,280 --> 00:45:58,360
well I delivered it somebody that took

843
00:46:06,540 --> 00:46:02,290
it there right right yes what else did

844
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:06,550
she say um well I can't really I'm not

845
00:46:11,130 --> 00:46:08,650
at liberty to say that right now because

846
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:11,140
it I just wouldn't do any good

847
00:46:17,610 --> 00:46:14,170
why not Chris well it's just not the

848
00:46:20,460 --> 00:46:17,620
right time I don't think and I was just

849
00:46:21,980 --> 00:46:20,470
rather or not would you share with me

850
00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:21,990
privately

851
00:46:27,750 --> 00:46:25,690
yeah probably would okay all right I

852
00:46:31,950 --> 00:46:27,760
don't like to get into doom and gloom

853
00:46:35,490 --> 00:46:31,960
stuff right right and and her her

854
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:35,500
message was not the end of the world but

855
00:46:40,500 --> 00:46:39,010
a new beginning that the the that and

856
00:46:44,970 --> 00:46:40,510
I'll give you a little bit of this that

857
00:46:48,030 --> 00:46:44,980
the Age of Aquarius was gonna mark a

858
00:46:51,380 --> 00:46:48,040
time of peace to come on earth that

859
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:51,390
there would be troubles before then and

860
00:47:02,010 --> 00:46:55,690
that the Divine Feminine would prevail

861
00:47:05,430 --> 00:47:02,020
that the maternal the the maternal power

862
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:05,440
would take hold and peace would come

863
00:47:13,710 --> 00:47:09,790
that the woman the women would be would

864
00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:13,720
rise up and that energy would take and

865
00:47:20,070 --> 00:47:17,050
bring about peace in time so it's all a

866
00:47:22,410 --> 00:47:20,080
good thing you know it's not nothing bad

867
00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:22,420
it was all that we're we're going to

868
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:25,120
rise up in peace it's just a few things

869
00:47:30,270 --> 00:47:27,370
I was shown in between it I didn't like

870
00:47:36,660 --> 00:47:30,280
a whole lot you know but none of that

871
00:47:39,570 --> 00:47:36,670
has to happen hmm and do you think I

872
00:47:42,990 --> 00:47:39,580
can't wait to hear this privately but do

873
00:47:46,890 --> 00:47:43,000
you think that when when you are dealing

874
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:46,900
with the future and the foretelling of

875
00:47:51,780 --> 00:47:48,790
the future then

876
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:51,790
I don't think anybody knows the future I

877
00:47:57,060 --> 00:47:54,490
think time travelers would know the

878
00:48:00,750 --> 00:47:57,070
future right somebody that has been

879
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:00,760
there and has come back and is speaking

880
00:48:07,230 --> 00:48:05,470
about events from the future is is that

881
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:07,240
a possibility here because that would

882
00:48:11,880 --> 00:48:09,550
make a lot more sense I would think it

883
00:48:14,300 --> 00:48:11,890
is a possibility I know that they're

884
00:48:21,510 --> 00:48:14,310
worried about

885
00:48:24,750 --> 00:48:21,520
planet and and keeping it you know not

886
00:48:28,950 --> 00:48:24,760
abusing it not destroying it and that's

887
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:28,960
been my whole thing with all of this it

888
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:32,770
comes down to the nature and to this

889
00:48:40,830 --> 00:48:37,090
planet this that we've got to learn to

890
00:48:42,990 --> 00:48:40,840
get along we have to we have to learn to

891
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:43,000
live on this planet but destroying each

892
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:46,650
other and it's and the planets is there

893
00:48:54,650 --> 00:48:50,410
when do you were with her was there an

894
00:48:58,260 --> 00:48:54,660
actual physical two-way communication

895
00:49:00,900 --> 00:48:58,270
not by mouth I mean I didn't really ask

896
00:49:05,850 --> 00:49:00,910
a whole lot of questions I just listened

897
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:05,860
I did you know it was just too great I

898
00:49:11,850 --> 00:49:08,410
was so stunned I didn't even know how to

899
00:49:14,070 --> 00:49:11,860
act at what I was seeing but I knew what

900
00:49:15,390 --> 00:49:14,080
she was saying I knew exactly because I

901
00:49:18,870 --> 00:49:15,400
wouldn't I didn't want to tell the story

902
00:49:22,170 --> 00:49:18,880
ever again I was so upset from what had

903
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:22,180
happened with my family and the kids and

904
00:49:28,350 --> 00:49:25,930
you know the the television thing made

905
00:49:30,780 --> 00:49:28,360
me look bad and everybody just doubled

906
00:49:33,030 --> 00:49:30,790
down on laughter and the whole thing so

907
00:49:37,830 --> 00:49:33,040
I was not ever gonna talk about it again

908
00:49:38,970 --> 00:49:37,840
until she came when she came that

909
00:49:42,930 --> 00:49:38,980
changed everything

910
00:49:46,380 --> 00:49:42,940
I went from never talking to yes I want

911
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:46,390
to talk every day that I can and two

912
00:49:52,050 --> 00:49:48,490
weeks later I was with doctor for salka

913
00:49:55,110 --> 00:49:52,060
and I would have never met her Hatton

914
00:49:58,140 --> 00:49:55,120
this lady come and encouraged me to make

915
00:50:01,590 --> 00:49:58,150
that meeting so it was it was an

916
00:50:02,750 --> 00:50:01,600
arranged thing which in time it'll all

917
00:50:05,220 --> 00:50:02,760
come out of thing

918
00:50:07,410 --> 00:50:05,230
cuz dr. Priscilla and I working on a

919
00:50:09,570 --> 00:50:07,420
project together and have been many

920
00:50:15,780 --> 00:50:09,580
years and if it goes it'll be a really

921
00:50:21,110 --> 00:50:15,790
big deal the the communication with you

922
00:50:23,460 --> 00:50:21,120
did she the lady say that she was also

923
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:23,470
communicating with other people here on

924
00:50:32,460 --> 00:50:30,250
earth right is this same message or are

925
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:32,470
you the only one you know and I don't

926
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:34,690
want to put you in that you know some

927
00:50:42,330 --> 00:50:37,210
kind of Messiah situation where you're

928
00:50:50,130 --> 00:50:46,910
so is this same message being deployed

929
00:50:52,590 --> 00:50:50,140
with others around the world I would say

930
00:50:54,900 --> 00:50:52,600
so yeah I would think that a lot of

931
00:50:58,140 --> 00:50:54,910
people have had experiences with her

932
00:51:01,710 --> 00:50:58,150
because you know I'm fortunate to met

933
00:51:03,780 --> 00:51:01,720
dr. George service which Diana

934
00:51:06,540 --> 00:51:03,790
introduced me to and he's the world's

935
00:51:10,590 --> 00:51:06,550
authority on the lady and I have studied

936
00:51:15,410 --> 00:51:10,600
out you might say I have honorary PhD

937
00:51:20,030 --> 00:51:15,420
and in religion and cyah in that study

938
00:51:22,490 --> 00:51:20,040
but you know here I'm a Baptist guy

939
00:51:25,890 --> 00:51:22,500
Protestant from North Carolina never

940
00:51:29,910 --> 00:51:25,900
studied about the mother or the lady or

941
00:51:33,300 --> 00:51:29,920
anything and Catholicism other than you

942
00:51:37,050 --> 00:51:33,310
know Jesus and now here's the Southern

943
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:37,060
Baptist God meets this Lady of fátima or

944
00:51:43,830 --> 00:51:38,890
the Catholics would call of the Virgin

945
00:51:47,580 --> 00:51:43,840
Mary and so that that's kind of where I

946
00:51:52,290 --> 00:51:47,590
stood with this I didn't know a lady but

947
00:51:54,270 --> 00:51:52,300
I do now but I see her differently than

948
00:51:58,800 --> 00:51:54,280
the Catholics was here that's why it's

949
00:52:01,320 --> 00:51:58,810
easy for me to say the Lady of fátima of

950
00:52:03,210 --> 00:52:01,330
course we know some inside stuff too

951
00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:03,220
that there were really a hundred

952
00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:07,090
thousand witnesses to that and and

953
00:52:13,310 --> 00:52:09,610
staying on this for just a bit and I've

954
00:52:17,510 --> 00:52:15,590
the Our Lady of fátima and that

955
00:52:20,300 --> 00:52:17,520
experience has been associated with the

956
00:52:23,900 --> 00:52:20,310
Virgin Mary and that came from the kids

957
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:23,910
that were there let me shift over to you

958
00:52:29,060 --> 00:52:24,570
Chris

959
00:52:31,610 --> 00:52:29,070
do you think if she were visited by the

960
00:52:34,100 --> 00:52:31,620
Virgin Mary and apparently the Virgin

961
00:52:37,430 --> 00:52:34,110
Mary is a blonde if that is the case

962
00:52:39,620 --> 00:52:37,440
right well I don't think it was the

963
00:52:43,790 --> 00:52:39,630
Virgin Mary I think it was something

964
00:52:45,320 --> 00:52:43,800
that you know I don't know the Virgin

965
00:52:47,900 --> 00:52:45,330
Mary could have been but you know I

966
00:52:50,150 --> 00:52:47,910
think she's been around forever not just

967
00:52:54,530 --> 00:52:50,160
for the last 2,000 years but for the

968
00:52:56,510 --> 00:52:54,540
last nearly million years sure sure

969
00:53:00,860 --> 00:52:56,520
stata for that yeah fascinating

970
00:53:05,270 --> 00:53:00,870
fascinating and now the obvious question

971
00:53:09,950 --> 00:53:05,280
before the break the three children and

972
00:53:12,980 --> 00:53:09,960
Fatima in 1917 did do you think that

973
00:53:15,980 --> 00:53:12,990
they witnessed and met who you witnessed

974
00:53:18,920 --> 00:53:15,990
I would say it was probably the same

975
00:53:20,870 --> 00:53:18,930
person yes very interesting let's take

976
00:53:22,760 --> 00:53:20,880
our break right here this is fade to

977
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:22,770
black I am your host Jimmy Church our

978
00:53:29,750 --> 00:53:26,490
guest tonight Chris Bledsoe we have got

979
00:53:31,550 --> 00:53:29,760
a lot more to discuss you just stay

980
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:31,560
right there it's gonna be a great

981
00:53:35,420 --> 00:53:33,210
conversation tonight this is fade to

982
00:53:40,930 --> 00:53:35,430
black on the GameChanger network and kg

983
00:54:18,920 --> 00:54:15,600
[Music]

984
00:54:24,710 --> 00:54:21,450
welcome back fade to black I'm Emma

985
00:54:28,559 --> 00:54:24,720
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986
00:54:30,839 --> 00:54:28,569
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993
00:54:49,650 --> 00:54:47,049
black when you're driving to work in the

994
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:49,660
morning Chris how often do you listen to

995
00:54:54,599 --> 00:54:51,490
fade to black do you like dial in and go

996
00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:54,609
man this shows crazy actually this is

997
00:54:58,819 --> 00:54:56,410
the first time I've listened really

998
00:55:03,599 --> 00:54:58,829
[Laughter]

999
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:03,609
honestly Jimmy I've made at a point and

1000
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:07,690
this I took I took as advice from some

1001
00:55:13,710 --> 00:55:10,569
scientists early on right to not to not

1002
00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:13,720
listen to anybody's experiences or not

1003
00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:16,030
to go to these conferences and get all

1004
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:18,670
involved because they wanted me to

1005
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:21,369
figure it on my own and keep my

1006
00:55:30,059 --> 00:55:24,250
experience my experience and so that's

1007
00:55:32,849 --> 00:55:30,069
why you know have been hidden so long

1008
00:55:38,250 --> 00:55:32,859
and never really I've never listened to

1009
00:55:40,170 --> 00:55:38,260
much of anything or I just don't have

1010
00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:40,180
you thought about and I'm glad you

1011
00:55:47,010 --> 00:55:42,609
responded that way have you thought

1012
00:55:50,549 --> 00:55:47,020
about reaching out to Travis Walton and

1013
00:55:53,609 --> 00:55:50,559
it's had the spirit well and and have

1014
00:55:56,370 --> 00:55:53,619
you guys compared notes privately we

1015
00:55:59,700 --> 00:55:56,380
have in fact about four or five years

1016
00:56:02,940 --> 00:55:59,710
ago Travis and I sat down and talked for

1017
00:56:05,309 --> 00:56:02,950
a long time when he was talking about it

1018
00:56:09,539 --> 00:56:05,319
his experience and you know he came back

1019
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:09,549
out with with some new stuff and I was

1020
00:56:17,010 --> 00:56:12,730
actually there with him during that time

1021
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:17,020
doing a lot of talk he's amazing he's

1022
00:56:23,220 --> 00:56:20,410
absolutely amazing just the thing is

1023
00:56:25,559 --> 00:56:23,230
about Travis like you this is the

1024
00:56:28,230 --> 00:56:25,569
similarity how many times can you tell

1025
00:56:30,569 --> 00:56:28,240
the Cape feare story right how many

1026
00:56:31,130 --> 00:56:30,579
times can you do how many times can

1027
00:56:34,370 --> 00:56:31,140
Travis

1028
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:34,380
Walton tell his story again because

1029
00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:37,170
that's all anybody is you know show

1030
00:56:43,030 --> 00:56:39,450
hosts and people that's gonna they just

1031
00:56:46,130 --> 00:56:43,040
want him to relive that when you sit

1032
00:56:49,550 --> 00:56:46,140
privately with Travis and just have a

1033
00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:49,560
conversation about things you find out

1034
00:56:56,180 --> 00:56:52,140
not only about how intelligent he is but

1035
00:57:00,200 --> 00:56:56,190
he's got a lot of things to say and he's

1036
00:57:04,760 --> 00:57:00,210
got a lot of not only experience but but

1037
00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:04,770
he he knows things and if you just sit

1038
00:57:11,240 --> 00:57:07,650
and talk with Travis like you did you

1039
00:57:13,130 --> 00:57:11,250
find out how how deep he is not only

1040
00:57:15,010 --> 00:57:13,140
about the subject but is concerned for

1041
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:15,020
this planet and the way that these

1042
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:18,330
experiences are dealt with he's an

1043
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:21,890
amazing source of material isn't he

1044
00:57:28,510 --> 00:57:24,960
agree I just think the world of Travis

1045
00:57:30,860 --> 00:57:28,520
she's like the hero to man he is

1046
00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:30,870
absolutely amazing so I'm glad that

1047
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:34,290
you've opened up that dialogue I want to

1048
00:57:38,690 --> 00:57:36,900
I want to move on and I want to talk

1049
00:57:39,110 --> 00:57:38,700
about your dad can we talk about your

1050
00:57:43,970 --> 00:57:39,120
dad

1051
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:43,980
sure okay you guys are which i think is

1052
00:57:50,780 --> 00:57:47,850
really cool well were neighbors your mom

1053
00:57:52,970 --> 00:57:50,790
still lives next door well we moved

1054
00:57:56,210 --> 00:57:52,980
since then but she still is in the same

1055
00:58:01,900 --> 00:57:56,220
place she's in the same place okay your

1056
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:01,910
dad gets sick right it's his gallbladder

1057
00:58:08,300 --> 00:58:04,890
yeah I just felt first his kidneys and

1058
00:58:10,070 --> 00:58:08,310
then his gallbladder and and he goes to

1059
00:58:13,070 --> 00:58:10,080
Duke University he goes into the

1060
00:58:17,330 --> 00:58:13,080
hospital yeah this was his goal this was

1061
00:58:21,740 --> 00:58:17,340
his kidney he went to to do go ahead

1062
00:58:25,330 --> 00:58:21,750
I'll let you know he goes he goes to

1063
00:58:28,370 --> 00:58:25,340
Duke he's got some serious serious

1064
00:58:32,930 --> 00:58:28,380
medical issues that are going on he goes

1065
00:58:34,460 --> 00:58:32,940
to Duke and while in the hospital what

1066
00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:34,470
do they tell the family what did the

1067
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:35,570
doctors say

1068
00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:40,410
well they had what dad had a major heart

1069
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:44,970
attack in O 4 where he lost like 40%

1070
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:48,650
of his heart and he was a big guy 350

1071
00:58:55,580 --> 00:58:53,490
380 pounds and she couldn't walk very

1072
00:58:58,849 --> 00:58:55,590
far without being completely out of

1073
00:59:06,310 --> 00:58:58,859
oxygen it's a handy captain and then

1074
00:59:08,810 --> 00:59:06,320
along about 2009 or 10 I guess or 11 I

1075
00:59:12,830 --> 00:59:08,820
don't know the exact year but it was in

1076
00:59:15,950 --> 00:59:12,840
that frame he goes to Duke and they

1077
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:15,960
diagnosed him with cancer and his kidney

1078
00:59:25,250 --> 00:59:19,680
and they told us that they could not

1079
00:59:27,170 --> 00:59:25,260
operate because if they put him on tried

1080
00:59:29,480 --> 00:59:27,180
to put him under his blood pressure

1081
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:29,490
would drop to low because of half his

1082
00:59:35,690 --> 00:59:32,130
heart wasn't working and he would never

1083
00:59:37,820 --> 00:59:35,700
come out of anesthesia so they guest

1084
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:37,830
told us he was going to die and it would

1085
00:59:43,370 --> 00:59:39,900
get worse before it got better it would

1086
00:59:45,800 --> 00:59:43,380
be very painful agony that I mean they

1087
00:59:50,030 --> 00:59:45,810
told us all that right so the whole

1088
00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:50,040
family is suffering this my dad my best

1089
00:59:54,740 --> 00:59:53,010
friend lives next door 52 years we've

1090
00:59:58,609 --> 00:59:54,750
been best friends he's gonna die in

1091
01:00:03,680 --> 00:59:58,619
agony of kidney cancer and so I

1092
01:00:07,460 --> 01:00:03,690
immediately shifted my attention to the

1093
01:00:12,530 --> 01:00:07,470
sky and to the lady and this was after

1094
01:00:14,420 --> 01:00:12,540
the lay came and I was praying to help

1095
01:00:18,530 --> 01:00:14,430
him to heal him that this can't happen

1096
01:00:23,180 --> 01:00:18,540
it was just terrible so uh this goes on

1097
01:00:27,859 --> 01:00:23,190
for a month or so we're looking at of

1098
01:00:29,630 --> 01:00:27,869
him facing this I said mom try out the

1099
01:00:32,210 --> 01:00:29,640
doctors at Duke said why don't you send

1100
01:00:34,700 --> 01:00:32,220
him to Chapel Hill UNC Chapel Hill very

1101
01:00:36,099 --> 01:00:34,710
famous School of Medicine and get a

1102
01:00:39,470 --> 01:00:36,109
second opinion

1103
01:00:42,220 --> 01:00:39,480
he said they think that that Chapel Hill

1104
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:42,230
has a new machine that they're able to

1105
01:00:50,480 --> 01:00:46,170
put him in and turn him over and do it

1106
01:00:52,370 --> 01:00:50,490
locally operate on his kidney with some

1107
01:00:54,440 --> 01:00:52,380
sort of machine that freezes it's all I

1108
01:00:58,099 --> 01:00:54,450
know without doing without putting him

1109
01:01:00,320 --> 01:00:58,109
to sleep so they died mother goes up

1110
01:01:03,770 --> 01:01:00,330
there and it was on a Friday evening we

1111
01:01:06,020 --> 01:01:03,780
come home early my wife and all the kids

1112
01:01:09,650 --> 01:01:06,030
got off the school bus and we were home

1113
01:01:12,530 --> 01:01:09,660
from school and we're on the patio with

1114
01:01:16,910 --> 01:01:12,540
mom and dad waiting on the results to

1115
01:01:20,930 --> 01:01:16,920
come in from Chapel Hill and all of us

1116
01:01:23,690 --> 01:01:20,940
were just pleading you know praying and

1117
01:01:26,570 --> 01:01:23,700
everything it was just this very silent

1118
01:01:30,349 --> 01:01:26,580
longface moment for everybody's about 4

1119
01:01:35,290 --> 01:01:30,359
o'clock in the evening a Friday and the

1120
01:01:38,960 --> 01:01:35,300
mom gets a call the best I can remember

1121
01:01:44,030 --> 01:01:38,970
the waist the daughter at Chapel Hill

1122
01:01:46,820 --> 01:01:44,040
said we don't see anything hear

1123
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:46,830
something and there's no cancer that we

1124
01:01:51,050 --> 01:01:48,690
see that'll ever cause him to die

1125
01:01:54,530 --> 01:01:51,060
nothing there I mean it was like a

1126
01:01:57,859 --> 01:01:54,540
miracle that happened and it did and

1127
01:01:59,630 --> 01:01:57,869
immediately Jimmy I just threw my hand

1128
01:02:02,140 --> 01:01:59,640
straight up in the air I'm sitting

1129
01:02:07,940 --> 01:02:02,150
facing dad all of us on the patio mom

1130
01:02:10,490 --> 01:02:07,950
gone and my wife some of my children dad

1131
01:02:12,859 --> 01:02:10,500
mother and I just raised my hand

1132
01:02:14,930 --> 01:02:12,869
straight up in a very quick motion

1133
01:02:18,260 --> 01:02:14,940
looking at dad and said thank you Lord

1134
01:02:22,250 --> 01:02:18,270
and when I looked up between my hands it

1135
01:02:24,500 --> 01:02:22,260
appeared and I said oh my god look mom

1136
01:02:27,530 --> 01:02:24,510
and dad and my wife and everybody just

1137
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:27,540
stood there dad stood up from his swing

1138
01:02:32,210 --> 01:02:30,210
he was laying down in the swing he stood

1139
01:02:37,460 --> 01:02:32,220
up and looked up and there was this

1140
01:02:41,720 --> 01:02:37,470
really long cigar looking craft glowing

1141
01:02:44,210 --> 01:02:41,730
a very translucent white looking and it

1142
01:02:45,950 --> 01:02:44,220
just sat there and I know the sudden it

1143
01:02:48,710 --> 01:02:45,960
moved away it moved towards the

1144
01:02:51,260 --> 01:02:48,720
southwest and vanished right in front of

1145
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:51,270
us but it happened as soon as I said

1146
01:02:55,070 --> 01:02:52,290
thank you lord

1147
01:02:58,250 --> 01:02:55,080
threw my hands up and it appeared all at

1148
01:03:00,650 --> 01:02:58,260
the same time so that's another reason

1149
01:03:04,250 --> 01:03:00,660
all these things that have gone on over

1150
01:03:09,069 --> 01:03:04,260
13 years the way it acts the way it

1151
01:03:13,089 --> 01:03:09,079
interacts the way it comes and listens

1152
01:03:16,239 --> 01:03:13,099
there's something much more greater than

1153
01:03:24,359 --> 01:03:16,249
just a simple alien from Pleiades in my

1154
01:03:25,569 --> 01:03:24,369
opinion to something more complex yeah

1155
01:03:28,719 --> 01:03:25,579
totally

1156
01:03:33,120 --> 01:03:28,729
but stop right there for a second let's

1157
01:03:38,049 --> 01:03:33,130
analyze this are you suggesting that

1158
01:03:41,699 --> 01:03:38,059
between Duke and Chapel Hill when you

1159
01:03:48,909 --> 01:03:41,709
went out and and asked for guidance and

1160
01:03:53,889 --> 01:03:48,919
contact that your friends cured your

1161
01:03:57,999 --> 01:03:53,899
father I absolutely believe that 100% do

1162
01:04:00,219 --> 01:03:58,009
you think that Duke did not make a

1163
01:04:05,289 --> 01:04:00,229
mistake that they found cancer in your

1164
01:04:07,329 --> 01:04:05,299
father dude don't make mistakes I would

1165
01:04:11,109 --> 01:04:07,339
say that that is true but the question

1166
01:04:13,179 --> 01:04:11,119
is the question is do you believe that

1167
01:04:17,529 --> 01:04:13,189
Duke actually found cancer in your

1168
01:04:19,479 --> 01:04:17,539
father yes a hundred percent and Chapel

1169
01:04:23,559 --> 01:04:19,489
Hill is not going to make mistakes

1170
01:04:26,949 --> 01:04:23,569
either are they no sir and they did not

1171
01:04:31,779 --> 01:04:26,959
find cancer what was what was the time

1172
01:04:34,870 --> 01:04:31,789
period between Duke and Chapel Hill 3045

1173
01:04:37,120 --> 01:04:34,880
days maybe from the you know Duke went

1174
01:04:39,639 --> 01:04:37,130
on for a month of testing and when we

1175
01:04:43,299 --> 01:04:39,649
got the results back there was a month

1176
01:04:46,419 --> 01:04:43,309
there of us just just tormented all of

1177
01:04:49,239 --> 01:04:46,429
my children my sister's and her children

1178
01:04:53,649 --> 01:04:49,249
you know all young sure grandchildren

1179
01:04:56,459 --> 01:04:53,659
were just dude I was very sad I mean we

1180
01:04:59,049 --> 01:04:56,469
were devastated and dad was living

1181
01:05:02,469 --> 01:04:59,059
thinking you know it was it into the

1182
01:05:04,359 --> 01:05:02,479
world for him and well that was the

1183
01:05:08,829 --> 01:05:04,369
message from Duke Duke was like you guys

1184
01:05:10,629 --> 01:05:08,839
need to prepare yeah absolutely said

1185
01:05:12,819 --> 01:05:10,639
there's nothing there to take your

1186
01:05:15,519 --> 01:05:12,829
father away okay now this is the

1187
01:05:16,870 --> 01:05:15,529
question and you may laugh as loud as

1188
01:05:19,950 --> 01:05:16,880
you want okay

1189
01:05:23,340 --> 01:05:19,960
did your father feel the change right

1190
01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:23,350
was did he go from like being sick to

1191
01:05:32,070 --> 01:05:29,170
feeling pretty dang good yeah he he

1192
01:05:34,020 --> 01:05:32,080
never suffered from it or not give me

1193
01:05:37,530 --> 01:05:34,030
anymore is the gallbladder broke after

1194
01:05:40,220 --> 01:05:37,540
that busted or ruptured and that

1195
01:05:43,530 --> 01:05:40,230
happened at the hospital by the way and

1196
01:05:45,830 --> 01:05:43,540
eventually it weakened him so bad he

1197
01:05:49,620 --> 01:05:45,840
just really never recovered from that

1198
01:05:54,300 --> 01:05:49,630
his yet heart failure but that was very

1199
01:05:57,930 --> 01:05:54,310
bad on him the appearance of the

1200
01:06:02,490 --> 01:05:57,940
cigar-shaped craft by the way I've seen

1201
01:06:04,740 --> 01:06:02,500
a lot of stuff Chris I I still haven't

1202
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:04,750
seen a cigar-shaped craft I hear these

1203
01:06:10,740 --> 01:06:07,330
just guide the descriptions all the time

1204
01:06:12,630 --> 01:06:10,750
and witnesses I have no idea what that

1205
01:06:14,390 --> 01:06:12,640
might look like I haven't seen one yet

1206
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:14,400
and I look forward to the day that I do

1207
01:06:19,890 --> 01:06:17,950
but you guys did the whole family did

1208
01:06:26,100 --> 01:06:19,900
that day after the news came in from

1209
01:06:31,470 --> 01:06:26,110
Chapel Hill and I understand I sort of

1210
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:31,480
understand your description was it was

1211
01:06:39,120 --> 01:06:36,400
it was it real was it solid as opposed

1212
01:06:41,130 --> 01:06:39,130
to you know a glowing orb of energy

1213
01:06:44,250 --> 01:06:41,140
that's that's another description and I

1214
01:06:50,010 --> 01:06:44,260
understand that too but this was this a

1215
01:06:51,030 --> 01:06:50,020
craft yes it was a tubular like a

1216
01:06:52,830 --> 01:06:51,040
cylinder

1217
01:06:55,260 --> 01:06:52,840
I wouldn't say cigar like pointed on

1218
01:06:57,780 --> 01:06:55,270
each in I'd say that because a lot of

1219
01:07:03,300 --> 01:06:57,790
people would think that but it was like

1220
01:07:04,860 --> 01:07:03,310
a cylinder like a you know long I don't

1221
01:07:08,670 --> 01:07:04,870
know how big it was but it was purely

1222
01:07:12,090 --> 01:07:08,680
big really big and it just stood there

1223
01:07:17,700 --> 01:07:12,100
stationary glowing but you could plainly

1224
01:07:20,460 --> 01:07:17,710
see it was a cylinder shaped object

1225
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:20,470
probably 100 feet long I would guess if

1226
01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:23,650
I had to guess the length of it more and

1227
01:07:31,110 --> 01:07:27,850
and these objects and you're very lucky

1228
01:07:32,310 --> 01:07:31,120
they always seem to appear fairly close

1229
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:32,320
to you

1230
01:07:35,430 --> 01:07:34,210
you know fifty feet in the air 100 feet

1231
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:35,440
the air a couple hundred feet in the air

1232
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:37,450
but you can see detail you can see it

1233
01:07:41,400 --> 01:07:39,010
it's right there it's in front of you

1234
01:07:45,300 --> 01:07:41,410
and it's low same situation with this

1235
01:07:49,110 --> 01:07:45,310
craft it wasn't so low but we could see

1236
01:07:52,170 --> 01:07:49,120
very good detail it was very big and it

1237
01:07:55,260 --> 01:07:52,180
was it was it was not that close to us

1238
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:55,270
but it was big enough and there that

1239
01:08:02,370 --> 01:07:58,030
everybody saw it plain as day was it

1240
01:08:04,290 --> 01:08:02,380
flat on the ends flat yes like a tube

1241
01:08:07,890 --> 01:08:04,300
it's like a pipe just take a piece of

1242
01:08:12,300 --> 01:08:07,900
pipe and and hold it up and that's what

1243
01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:12,310
it look like a cylinder the the craft

1244
01:08:18,710 --> 01:08:14,650
hung up there for a little bit how did

1245
01:08:21,570 --> 01:08:18,720
it fly away it just went straight like

1246
01:08:23,849 --> 01:08:21,580
like it was on a string it sat there a

1247
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:23,859
second and then it moved away kind of

1248
01:08:30,090 --> 01:08:27,430
slowly and it vanished like vanishing

1249
01:08:32,160 --> 01:08:30,100
you see you've seen TV shows where

1250
01:08:34,320 --> 01:08:32,170
things vanish in front of you like you

1251
01:08:36,150 --> 01:08:34,330
know you get a little wobbly looking all

1252
01:08:39,860 --> 01:08:36,160
sudden it's gone well that's really how

1253
01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:39,870
it looks how it did it just kind of

1254
01:08:47,490 --> 01:08:43,480
vanished but dr. McGuire by the way had

1255
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:47,500
an experience here and Ryan videoed it

1256
01:08:53,010 --> 01:08:51,490
and you can hear Bob talking in it but

1257
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:53,020
it did the same thing this object

1258
01:08:59,310 --> 01:08:57,250
appeared to the west right next to Venus

1259
01:09:01,680 --> 01:08:59,320
and was by as bright as Venus or

1260
01:09:04,680 --> 01:09:01,690
brighter and it was just above the trees

1261
01:09:07,770 --> 01:09:04,690
looked from our angle and it flew kind

1262
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:07,780
of to us and and then turned towards the

1263
01:09:14,460 --> 01:09:11,650
north and as it was departing it it's as

1264
01:09:16,650 --> 01:09:14,470
slowly vanished like the video I'll send

1265
01:09:22,920 --> 01:09:16,660
you a video later and you'll see how how

1266
01:09:25,500 --> 01:09:22,930
they do the the the cigar shaped pipe

1267
01:09:27,150 --> 01:09:25,510
craft and I like that description was

1268
01:09:31,410 --> 01:09:27,160
that the only time that you have seen

1269
01:09:31,980 --> 01:09:31,420
this particular craft no I've seen it

1270
01:09:39,510 --> 01:09:31,990
before

1271
01:09:43,289 --> 01:09:39,520
in fact my niece I was in Ohio on a

1272
01:09:48,630 --> 01:09:43,299
a scientific journey you might say with

1273
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:48,640
a friend and I can't say her but my

1274
01:09:53,610 --> 01:09:51,490
mother calls and my niece calls me when

1275
01:09:55,710 --> 01:09:53,620
I was with this guy from the aerospace

1276
01:09:59,310 --> 01:09:55,720
industry right so he looks at me because

1277
01:10:01,500 --> 01:09:59,320
I put it on audio worse you know

1278
01:10:04,770 --> 01:10:01,510
speakerphone and his eyes look he looked

1279
01:10:07,940 --> 01:10:04,780
at me like oh my god but mom calls and

1280
01:10:11,070 --> 01:10:07,950
Stefanie and said that there was a

1281
01:10:15,900 --> 01:10:11,080
cylinder hovering over my house it

1282
01:10:18,090 --> 01:10:15,910
looked to be 3 or 400 feet long and had

1283
01:10:21,680 --> 01:10:18,100
windows all the way down and was just

1284
01:10:25,440 --> 01:10:21,690
above the house and so I've seen it

1285
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:25,450
three times and my mother and he saw it

1286
01:10:37,560 --> 01:10:28,570
when I was gone right on top of the

1287
01:10:41,670 --> 01:10:37,570
house the the existence of these craft

1288
01:10:44,130 --> 01:10:41,680
where now you've got people coming out

1289
01:10:48,600 --> 01:10:44,140
and and seeing them you're you're

1290
01:10:50,820 --> 01:10:48,610
videotaping and the the sightings that

1291
01:10:54,020 --> 01:10:50,830
happen around the world including with

1292
01:10:59,280 --> 01:10:54,030
myself that are similar are these

1293
01:11:03,540 --> 01:10:59,290
contact experiences from the same race

1294
01:11:06,810 --> 01:11:03,550
of beings that are contacting you well I

1295
01:11:09,030 --> 01:11:06,820
would think so Jimmy but I can't really

1296
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:09,040
answer that you know I've never been

1297
01:11:15,510 --> 01:11:11,410
able to get alien out of this thing even

1298
01:11:19,290 --> 01:11:15,520
though they may look that way you know

1299
01:11:21,930 --> 01:11:19,300
but it may be because I don't know I

1300
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:21,940
can't answer that I just know it listens

1301
01:11:28,550 --> 01:11:25,330
to me and it's like friends I mean it's

1302
01:11:31,980 --> 01:11:28,560
turned into a real relationship with

1303
01:11:34,590 --> 01:11:31,990
beings that are always above this house

1304
01:11:36,780 --> 01:11:34,600
or if I go to California if I'm with you

1305
01:11:39,450 --> 01:11:36,790
they'll be there too they're always

1306
01:11:42,420 --> 01:11:39,460
around us and I don't look at it as me I

1307
01:11:47,550 --> 01:11:42,430
think it follows everybody but I've

1308
01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:47,560
formed a way of I'm just asking it to to

1309
01:11:53,189 --> 01:11:50,470
come see a friend like if you came right

1310
01:11:55,860 --> 01:11:53,199
and and I always ask in the

1311
01:11:59,240 --> 01:11:55,870
and the lady first I asked if be her

1312
01:12:03,350 --> 01:11:59,250
will and I was told that I had come to

1313
01:12:07,830 --> 01:12:03,360
try it and I did and that seems to be

1314
01:12:09,570 --> 01:12:07,840
the right combination but they just tend

1315
01:12:12,390 --> 01:12:09,580
to want to be sometimes I walk outside

1316
01:12:15,959 --> 01:12:12,400
and they're like kids they act like kids

1317
01:12:18,510 --> 01:12:15,969
at times I'm telling you so now that's

1318
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:18,520
where okay this is a great I'm glad you

1319
01:12:23,340 --> 01:12:21,010
brought that up because there's not only

1320
01:12:25,979 --> 01:12:23,350
the religious side of this and and I

1321
01:12:28,290 --> 01:12:25,989
understand i I've interviewed Tom

1322
01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:28,300
DeLonge on this show where he has

1323
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:30,250
brought up the religious aspect of this

1324
01:12:37,200 --> 01:12:35,290
he even mentioned inside of the Pentagon

1325
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:37,210
in the Department of Defense that this

1326
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:40,810
this discussion of religion maybe even a

1327
01:12:46,080 --> 01:12:43,150
satanic bad influence that we shouldn't

1328
01:12:47,910 --> 01:12:46,090
be contacting what is going on up there

1329
01:12:52,140 --> 01:12:47,920
that there was a religious component to

1330
01:12:57,209 --> 01:12:52,150
this and with all of that and bringing

1331
01:13:00,959 --> 01:12:57,219
up the long you were approached by a tip

1332
01:13:05,010 --> 01:13:00,969
were you the first case that a tip

1333
01:13:07,200 --> 01:13:05,020
investigated how did that happen well I

1334
01:13:09,419 --> 01:13:07,210
would say I'm the first case you know

1335
01:13:12,419 --> 01:13:09,429
they could have been on submarines or

1336
01:13:15,930 --> 01:13:12,429
out in the sea but when I reported this

1337
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:15,940
thing in oh seven this whole thing was

1338
01:13:23,430 --> 01:13:19,510
in formation at that time and I was told

1339
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:23,440
I was the first Bigelow Aerospace star

1340
01:13:31,740 --> 01:13:26,770
team investigation that it all happened

1341
01:13:34,350 --> 01:13:31,750
on when after I reported it and so yeah

1342
01:13:36,180 --> 01:13:34,360
I know they were being led by that so I

1343
01:13:41,070 --> 01:13:36,190
would say through MUFON that's how it

1344
01:13:43,620 --> 01:13:41,080
who approached you from a tip nobody

1345
01:13:49,290 --> 01:13:43,630
from a tip that was afterwards people

1346
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:49,300
that I'm saying Bigelow was working with

1347
01:13:55,650 --> 01:13:52,690
these people through MUFON or MUFON was

1348
01:13:59,330 --> 01:13:55,660
working with Bigelow on this early

1349
01:14:03,060 --> 01:13:59,340
funding star came investigator thing ah

1350
01:14:04,979 --> 01:14:03,070
so it wasn't like Lou Elizondo or

1351
01:14:05,690 --> 01:14:04,989
somebody from the organization that

1352
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:05,700
contact

1353
01:14:13,880 --> 01:14:09,810
you directly well Jim did directly but

1354
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:13,890
that was later on Jim yeah Jim Sam even

1355
01:14:20,720 --> 01:14:18,810
right right very interesting the I'm

1356
01:14:22,460 --> 01:14:20,730
watching Twitter and I knew that this

1357
01:14:25,450 --> 01:14:22,470
was going to happen

1358
01:14:29,030 --> 01:14:25,460
I had a sighting I don't want to pollute

1359
01:14:30,110 --> 01:14:29,040
your answer all right I'm not gonna I

1360
01:14:32,450 --> 01:14:30,120
don't want to give a leading question

1361
01:14:34,040 --> 01:14:32,460
but I kind of have to here I had a

1362
01:14:37,090 --> 01:14:34,050
sighting with a group of people up in

1363
01:14:40,190 --> 01:14:37,100
Washington it was during the day Chris

1364
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:40,200
and it was massive I'm going to

1365
01:14:47,260 --> 01:14:42,570
guesstimate and say this object was

1366
01:14:52,220 --> 01:14:47,270
between 4 and 500 feet tall maybe bigger

1367
01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:52,230
maybe a hundred feet wide vertical up

1368
01:14:59,300 --> 01:14:56,210
and down and it was shaped like a can

1369
01:15:02,180 --> 01:14:59,310
not like a not necessarily like a pipe

1370
01:15:04,820 --> 01:15:02,190
it was shorter like it can alright like

1371
01:15:08,450 --> 01:15:04,830
a like a beer can like a coke can

1372
01:15:10,670 --> 01:15:08,460
that ratio and it was round and it was

1373
01:15:13,070 --> 01:15:10,680
spinning just like if you held up a can

1374
01:15:14,660 --> 01:15:13,080
of coke in front of you by the bottom

1375
01:15:16,570 --> 01:15:14,670
with your fingers and just spun it with

1376
01:15:20,860 --> 01:15:16,580
your hands right with your fingers

1377
01:15:24,260 --> 01:15:20,870
that's what I saw with a group of people

1378
01:15:27,260 --> 01:15:24,270
with you're siding with this pipe was it

1379
01:15:32,180 --> 01:15:27,270
short enough to have a can shape or was

1380
01:15:35,690 --> 01:15:32,190
it longer and more pipe like it was

1381
01:15:38,660 --> 01:15:35,700
probably more like the can shape it was

1382
01:15:43,010 --> 01:15:38,670
it wasn't all that long as to the size

1383
01:15:44,150 --> 01:15:43,020
is you maybe more clutch to what we all

1384
01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:44,160
saw something

1385
01:15:49,700 --> 01:15:47,370
it was definitely cylindrical right like

1386
01:15:52,190 --> 01:15:49,710
a like a can yeah

1387
01:15:58,960 --> 01:15:52,200
was it spinning at all was it rotating

1388
01:16:03,200 --> 01:15:58,970
on its axis was there anything that

1389
01:16:04,850 --> 01:16:03,210
stood out or is it just one color was

1390
01:16:08,030 --> 01:16:04,860
there anything else on that on the craft

1391
01:16:11,690 --> 01:16:08,040
that you could describe no other than it

1392
01:16:15,710 --> 01:16:11,700
was a translucent bluish white color

1393
01:16:18,590 --> 01:16:15,720
okay and it was just stationary for a

1394
01:16:19,550 --> 01:16:18,600
second right between my hands when I

1395
01:16:22,970 --> 01:16:19,560
raised my hands up

1396
01:16:26,390 --> 01:16:22,980
then I raised my head up after and man

1397
01:16:29,210 --> 01:16:26,400
it was right between my hands and that's

1398
01:16:31,280 --> 01:16:29,220
when everybody saw it we've seen a lot

1399
01:16:33,400 --> 01:16:31,290
of stuff a lot of people have come there

1400
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:33,410
and a lot of people have seen things

1401
01:16:43,040 --> 01:16:37,530
these orbs that I call orbs a lot of

1402
01:16:45,260 --> 01:16:43,050
those orbs are metal metallic craft in

1403
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:45,270
those some look like discs some look

1404
01:16:49,910 --> 01:16:48,090
like eggs you might say but they glow

1405
01:16:52,850 --> 01:16:49,920
they can glow in the day and look like a

1406
01:16:56,810 --> 01:16:52,860
ball of light or they go at night and

1407
01:16:58,130 --> 01:16:56,820
look like a an orb or I get bit photos

1408
01:17:00,590 --> 01:16:58,140
of them every now and then they're just

1409
01:17:03,410 --> 01:17:00,600
in the clouds they're always in the

1410
01:17:06,710 --> 01:17:03,420
clouds if you look hard enough you can

1411
01:17:08,510 --> 01:17:06,720
see them just take a lot of pictures of

1412
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:08,520
the clouds and stars ooming in on and I

1413
01:17:14,780 --> 01:17:10,890
look closely they're always in the

1414
01:17:17,210 --> 01:17:14,790
clouds very very interesting let's take

1415
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:17,220
a break right here and when we come back

1416
01:17:22,610 --> 01:17:19,050
well let's let's continue down the

1417
01:17:24,890 --> 01:17:22,620
timeline and I'm going to oh there's a

1418
01:17:27,860 --> 01:17:24,900
no we're gonna jump back on the timeline

1419
01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:27,870
when we come back after the break I want

1420
01:17:33,440 --> 01:17:30,720
to talk about being inside of the craft

1421
01:17:36,020 --> 01:17:33,450
and I don't want to let that get away

1422
01:17:37,700 --> 01:17:36,030
from me but also other witnesses so

1423
01:17:40,220 --> 01:17:37,710
we're gonna go backwards and then we're

1424
01:17:43,310 --> 01:17:40,230
gonna come back to 2012 and continue the

1425
01:17:45,830 --> 01:17:43,320
story our guest tonight is Chris Bledsoe

1426
01:17:47,600 --> 01:17:45,840
everybody stay right there this is fade

1427
01:17:52,030 --> 01:17:47,610
to black I am your host Jimmy church

1428
01:17:55,970 --> 01:17:52,040
what an amazing amazing conversation on

1429
01:17:57,080 --> 01:17:55,980
the GameChanger network and kgr a the

1430
01:18:09,810 --> 01:17:57,090
planet stay with us

1431
01:18:15,069 --> 01:18:12,250
welcome back fade to black I'm real

1432
01:18:17,919 --> 01:18:15,079
shimmy Church tonight's guest Chris

1433
01:18:19,330 --> 01:18:17,929
Bledsoe tomorrow night Bob McGuire is

1434
01:18:24,069 --> 01:18:19,340
here Wednesday night

1435
01:18:25,870 --> 01:18:24,079
dr. Diana ahsoka what a great week

1436
01:18:27,910 --> 01:18:25,880
Thursday night of course is Fator night

1437
01:18:28,930 --> 01:18:27,920
with open lines all night long I'm your

1438
01:18:31,930 --> 01:18:28,940
host Jimmy church our guest tonight

1439
01:18:37,780 --> 01:18:31,940
Chris Bledsoe and Chris I want to back

1440
01:18:44,620 --> 01:18:37,790
up for a second to Cape Fear and your

1441
01:18:46,629 --> 01:18:44,630
son Chris jr. and once you did the

1442
01:18:49,689 --> 01:18:46,639
regression he found out a couple of

1443
01:18:51,490 --> 01:18:49,699
things now Chris went out and I want to

1444
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:51,500
understand for clarification here Chris

1445
01:18:56,799 --> 01:18:53,570
went out to go and find you there was

1446
01:18:58,540 --> 01:18:56,809
about five hours of missing time you

1447
01:19:01,689 --> 01:18:58,550
thought it was 5:00 p.m. you go back

1448
01:19:05,280 --> 01:19:01,699
it's 10:00 p.m. when you get back to the

1449
01:19:08,500 --> 01:19:05,290
the banks of the river and you

1450
01:19:11,140 --> 01:19:08,510
apparently were taken aboard a craft and

1451
01:19:17,370 --> 01:19:11,150
you were inside of a room did the same

1452
01:19:21,189 --> 01:19:17,380
thing happen to your son he never said

1453
01:19:25,030 --> 01:19:21,199
that it did he pretty much felt like he

1454
01:19:26,859 --> 01:19:25,040
was full conscience the whole time that

1455
01:19:30,160 --> 01:19:26,869
it was going on in fact he did a

1456
01:19:34,419 --> 01:19:30,170
regression with dr. O'Connell and never

1457
01:19:37,049 --> 01:19:34,429
discovered anything we all believe

1458
01:19:40,209 --> 01:19:37,059
including some of these scientists that

1459
01:19:43,270 --> 01:19:40,219
you've experienced in this firsthand and

1460
01:19:47,350 --> 01:19:43,280
having memory of it it was so traumatic

1461
01:19:52,419 --> 01:19:47,360
it would have worked on the strongest of

1462
01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:52,429
us just trust me it gets the person so

1463
01:19:58,049 --> 01:19:54,770
sideways you know you think you can

1464
01:20:00,339 --> 01:19:58,059
experience this and not be afraid of it

1465
01:20:02,919 --> 01:20:00,349
well I beg to differ

1466
01:20:05,470 --> 01:20:02,929
it doesn't matter how big a man you are

1467
01:20:08,439 --> 01:20:05,480
I think you are when you stand before

1468
01:20:10,899 --> 01:20:08,449
something that's not from this world it

1469
01:20:14,500 --> 01:20:10,909
can make some make you into a small

1470
01:20:18,520 --> 01:20:14,510
little person real quick and it just did

1471
01:20:20,979 --> 01:20:18,530
that to him it messed him up to where he

1472
01:20:22,959 --> 01:20:20,989
was afraid to stay at home

1473
01:20:26,529 --> 01:20:22,969
sleep in the bed I mean he'd had

1474
01:20:28,569 --> 01:20:26,539
nightmares and but now he's grown and

1475
01:20:30,430 --> 01:20:28,579
got children a child on the way and

1476
01:20:32,709 --> 01:20:30,440
bought a new house he's got a new

1477
01:20:37,660 --> 01:20:32,719
business going and it's just been very

1478
01:20:39,700 --> 01:20:37,670
blessed from from it all and when you

1479
01:20:44,919 --> 01:20:39,710
were the reason why I bring this up

1480
01:20:50,979 --> 01:20:44,929
because you were trying to think about

1481
01:20:53,649 --> 01:20:50,989
and remember the events at Cape Fear and

1482
01:20:58,029 --> 01:20:53,659
every time that you did that you would

1483
01:21:01,350 --> 01:20:58,039
get a serious migraine to the point of

1484
01:21:05,580 --> 01:21:01,360
being unconscious and passing out right

1485
01:21:11,109 --> 01:21:05,590
it did was this happening because

1486
01:21:13,569 --> 01:21:11,119
whoever was had interfaced with you

1487
01:21:15,640 --> 01:21:13,579
during this five hours didn't want you

1488
01:21:18,879 --> 01:21:15,650
to remember it it may they they had

1489
01:21:21,850 --> 01:21:18,889
blocked this memory that's exactly what

1490
01:21:24,520 --> 01:21:21,860
they did I couldn't remember anything

1491
01:21:28,140 --> 01:21:24,530
I'm telling you I remember perfectly

1492
01:21:30,520 --> 01:21:28,150
walking up or crawling up that hill and

1493
01:21:32,109 --> 01:21:30,530
seeing these objects in the broad

1494
01:21:36,339 --> 01:21:32,119
daylight all three of them

1495
01:21:38,259 --> 01:21:36,349
I remembered plainly everything the

1496
01:21:41,830 --> 01:21:38,269
whole time I was contemplating leaving

1497
01:21:44,919 --> 01:21:41,840
running being afraid the whole thing but

1498
01:21:47,049 --> 01:21:44,929
what I couldn't remember is what

1499
01:21:51,189 --> 01:21:47,059
happened in those four and a half hours

1500
01:21:55,029 --> 01:21:51,199
that I was gone I remember turning to

1501
01:21:57,430 --> 01:21:55,039
run and then walking up to the fire or

1502
01:22:00,310 --> 01:21:57,440
trotting actually I was trotting out the

1503
01:22:02,439 --> 01:22:00,320
last fifty feet because it was I had

1504
01:22:05,379 --> 01:22:02,449
gotten to the cleared area and they had

1505
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:05,389
a small fire going in but I couldn't

1506
01:22:11,379 --> 01:22:07,610
remember Jimmy nothing and every time I

1507
01:22:13,359 --> 01:22:11,389
tried to when MUFON came even a year

1508
01:22:15,939 --> 01:22:13,369
later and they started questioning me my

1509
01:22:18,310 --> 01:22:15,949
wife would tell you I would just fall

1510
01:22:20,589 --> 01:22:18,320
unconscious if I tried to think about it

1511
01:22:22,330 --> 01:22:20,599
I would pass out I had the worst

1512
01:22:27,399 --> 01:22:22,340
headaches here and it was it was

1513
01:22:29,649 --> 01:22:27,409
terrible until dr. O'Connell came and he

1514
01:22:33,189 --> 01:22:29,659
did something to start with a little

1515
01:22:34,479 --> 01:22:33,199
regression before the main one and he

1516
01:22:36,970 --> 01:22:34,489
said now your headache

1517
01:22:39,100 --> 01:22:36,980
go away and you'll be able to think sure

1518
01:22:44,170 --> 01:22:39,110
enough it did I never had the headache

1519
01:22:46,930 --> 01:22:44,180
anymore still couldn't remember but till

1520
01:22:49,690 --> 01:22:46,940
we did the regression then I he told me

1521
01:22:55,540 --> 01:22:49,700
he said just got trained with dr. John

1522
01:22:58,030 --> 01:22:55,550
Mack at Harvard and he said if if if he

1523
01:23:00,459 --> 01:22:58,040
said I could have in your regression

1524
01:23:02,620 --> 01:23:00,469
made it to where you would remember too

1525
01:23:06,670 --> 01:23:02,630
much too quick and it would cause you a

1526
01:23:08,580 --> 01:23:06,680
lot of problems you overload what we

1527
01:23:13,770 --> 01:23:08,590
want you to do is remember everything

1528
01:23:18,729 --> 01:23:13,780
over time slowly and methodically and so

1529
01:23:21,160 --> 01:23:18,739
after that day some weird dreams started

1530
01:23:26,260 --> 01:23:21,170
happening and mo I started recording me

1531
01:23:28,660 --> 01:23:26,270
with her iPod or screaming out loud and

1532
01:23:32,110 --> 01:23:28,670
shouting and crying and everything in my

1533
01:23:34,209 --> 01:23:32,120
sleep and all the kids would see it and

1534
01:23:35,890 --> 01:23:34,219
they thought it was you know something

1535
01:23:38,470 --> 01:23:35,900
worth watching they would sneak in and

1536
01:23:41,380 --> 01:23:38,480
see me talking in my sleep and this went

1537
01:23:47,020 --> 01:23:41,390
on for a long time would Chris would

1538
01:23:50,410 --> 01:23:47,030
Chris jr. come on fade to black I would

1539
01:23:54,760 --> 01:23:50,420
ask him I don't know how eager he would

1540
01:23:56,740 --> 01:23:54,770
be right now but one day he will I'm

1541
01:24:02,860 --> 01:23:56,750
sure at some point he doesn't have a

1542
01:24:05,200 --> 01:24:02,870
choice the because and somebody just

1543
01:24:09,010 --> 01:24:05,210
tweeted this others from Corey and Corey

1544
01:24:12,580 --> 01:24:09,020
says wasn't Chris jr. in the shrubs with

1545
01:24:16,780 --> 01:24:12,590
two beings with red eyes on the trail

1546
01:24:21,370 --> 01:24:16,790
and and I know I've heard references to

1547
01:24:24,070 --> 01:24:21,380
this in the past and and that tell us

1548
01:24:31,170 --> 01:24:24,080
about that if you could and describe

1549
01:24:35,979 --> 01:24:31,180
what Chris as has stated about this so

1550
01:24:38,410 --> 01:24:35,989
when I left out of there I made

1551
01:24:41,620 --> 01:24:38,420
reference to me going down a particular

1552
01:24:43,220 --> 01:24:41,630
part of the trail that was the first leg

1553
01:24:45,430 --> 01:24:43,230
out of there

1554
01:24:48,430 --> 01:24:45,440
[Music]

1555
01:24:51,910 --> 01:24:48,440
imagine looking at a lollipop

1556
01:24:53,890 --> 01:24:51,920
just a stick and all and the end of it

1557
01:24:56,560 --> 01:24:53,900
the lollipop the candy part is the

1558
01:24:59,680 --> 01:24:56,570
cul-de-sac and the stick goes straight

1559
01:25:03,010 --> 01:24:59,690
out right for an eighth of a mile and

1560
01:25:07,150 --> 01:25:03,020
then at the end of the stick it turns to

1561
01:25:10,209 --> 01:25:07,160
the west and eight so he was at the end

1562
01:25:12,550 --> 01:25:10,219
of the cul-de-sac and he was looking all

1563
01:25:15,209 --> 01:25:12,560
the way down the way out down that

1564
01:25:18,310 --> 01:25:15,219
covered trail once you got to the

1565
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:18,320
cul-de-sac it opened up but that part of

1566
01:25:23,500 --> 01:25:21,650
the trail the trees grew over real close

1567
01:25:26,140 --> 01:25:23,510
to the road and over like a tunnel

1568
01:25:29,500 --> 01:25:26,150
almost like you would see in Louisiana

1569
01:25:32,439 --> 01:25:29,510
on a plantation the driveway going in so

1570
01:25:34,620 --> 01:25:32,449
that part of the trail from where he was

1571
01:25:39,610 --> 01:25:34,630
standing to the very end was probably

1572
01:25:43,090 --> 01:25:39,620
300 yards you might say and he when he

1573
01:25:47,229 --> 01:25:43,100
left the fire and he went towards the

1574
01:25:49,660 --> 01:25:47,239
woods the first time to to look for me

1575
01:25:54,640 --> 01:25:49,670
and he was checking with the guys they

1576
01:25:57,729 --> 01:25:54,650
would go out and come back when he first

1577
01:26:01,680 --> 01:25:57,739
saw what he saw these orbs he called him

1578
01:26:05,500 --> 01:26:01,690
orbs to start with came out of the woods

1579
01:26:09,310 --> 01:26:05,510
probably 200 yards away down that long

1580
01:26:11,620 --> 01:26:09,320
path and he saw him cross over the road

1581
01:26:13,660 --> 01:26:11,630
towards the Riverside and they were

1582
01:26:17,260 --> 01:26:13,670
heading their way up to the guys at the

1583
01:26:21,010 --> 01:26:17,270
campfire so he sneaks back over to the

1584
01:26:23,320 --> 01:26:21,020
campfire which is to his right and down

1585
01:26:26,200 --> 01:26:23,330
on the river and he tells them what he

1586
01:26:28,780 --> 01:26:26,210
sees he saw these red orbs and they were

1587
01:26:31,090 --> 01:26:28,790
coming in towards these guys at the

1588
01:26:32,950 --> 01:26:31,100
campfire and it got one of them kind of

1589
01:26:35,830 --> 01:26:32,960
nervous and they were saying don't be

1590
01:26:39,340 --> 01:26:35,840
playing with us now Junior he said no

1591
01:26:41,470 --> 01:26:39,350
I'm looking my father so he goes back I

1592
01:26:44,680 --> 01:26:41,480
think the trucks gone by this time it's

1593
01:26:48,640 --> 01:26:44,690
just Jean there so he goes back to that

1594
01:26:52,240 --> 01:26:48,650
in and the shrubs where the edge of that

1595
01:26:56,530 --> 01:26:52,250
circle that acre of grass the edge is

1596
01:26:59,110 --> 01:26:56,540
very thick but the shrubs I mean get on

1597
01:27:01,900 --> 01:26:59,120
past that in the woods open up and this

1598
01:27:02,650 --> 01:27:01,910
big hardwoods and all but the first ten

1599
01:27:05,770 --> 01:27:02,660
feet around

1600
01:27:09,220 --> 01:27:05,780
clearin it's just real thick stuff so he

1601
01:27:11,500 --> 01:27:09,230
sees these lights way down the path come

1602
01:27:13,900 --> 01:27:11,510
back out of the river side back out in

1603
01:27:17,020 --> 01:27:13,910
the path and here they come towards him

1604
01:27:20,890 --> 01:27:17,030
and he's seeing red balls of light sighs

1605
01:27:23,290 --> 01:27:20,900
if he said to look like a bowling

1606
01:27:26,110 --> 01:27:23,300
ball-sized coming towards him side

1607
01:27:30,010 --> 01:27:26,120
beside these two red lights and when

1608
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:30,020
they get within 20 feet of 'n 15 feet

1609
01:27:38,410 --> 01:27:33,530
you can see plainly that these orbs were

1610
01:27:41,050 --> 01:27:38,420
eyes red eyes and these beings were

1611
01:27:45,280 --> 01:27:41,060
about size of children four-year-old

1612
01:27:49,420 --> 01:27:45,290
children and one would he said was on

1613
01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:49,430
his hands and knees picking up cans and

1614
01:27:55,150 --> 01:27:52,610
sticks interested in them observing them

1615
01:27:57,340 --> 01:27:55,160
throwing them on the ground while one of

1616
01:27:59,910 --> 01:27:57,350
these entities was always looking at it

1617
01:28:05,940 --> 01:27:59,920
never took his eyes off of him and he

1618
01:28:09,970 --> 01:28:05,950
couldn't scream he couldn't move he felt

1619
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:09,980
he felt paralyzed the whole time and

1620
01:28:16,540 --> 01:28:13,610
when I found him those beans were still

1621
01:28:19,450 --> 01:28:16,550
there they undoubtedly hid when I came

1622
01:28:22,270 --> 01:28:19,460
and got him because when we went back to

1623
01:28:25,270 --> 01:28:22,280
the fire I took him back to the fire and

1624
01:28:28,840 --> 01:28:25,280
he's these guys one of them pointed and

1625
01:28:30,310 --> 01:28:28,850
said look and we looked up and three of

1626
01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:30,320
these things there were seven or eight

1627
01:28:36,880 --> 01:28:34,130
eight or nine balls of light or stars

1628
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:36,890
that just looked like stars had just

1629
01:28:41,650 --> 01:28:39,290
started moving everywhere and three of

1630
01:28:47,230 --> 01:28:41,660
them landed and when we left out of

1631
01:28:49,150 --> 01:28:47,240
there one of those beings according to

1632
01:28:53,020 --> 01:28:49,160
one of the guys was behind the truck

1633
01:28:56,260 --> 01:28:53,030
trying to catch the truck as we were

1634
01:28:58,120 --> 01:28:56,270
leaving out so they were there the

1635
01:29:02,170 --> 01:28:58,130
crafts were still up at the top of the

1636
01:29:04,450 --> 01:29:02,180
field when we left you know so they were

1637
01:29:07,900 --> 01:29:04,460
there the whole time and then my

1638
01:29:10,530 --> 01:29:07,910
regression I kept asking where my son

1639
01:29:14,290 --> 01:29:10,540
was I wanted to get back to my son and

1640
01:29:16,270 --> 01:29:14,300
the answer was that he's being protected

1641
01:29:19,330 --> 01:29:16,280
not to worry about him

1642
01:29:21,339 --> 01:29:19,340
you'll see him soon and that came out of

1643
01:29:22,799 --> 01:29:21,349
the regression so they undoubtedly were

1644
01:29:28,830 --> 01:29:22,809
looking after him

1645
01:29:33,399 --> 01:29:28,840
well they had me off in a bowl a lie

1646
01:29:37,899 --> 01:29:33,409
there is you might want to take the time

1647
01:29:43,029 --> 01:29:37,909
to do this there's a book called the

1648
01:29:45,310 --> 01:29:43,039
Mojave incident and we have had the

1649
01:29:50,459 --> 01:29:45,320
author on the show and then also the

1650
01:29:54,609 --> 01:29:50,469
husband and wife that were the the

1651
01:29:57,100 --> 01:29:54,619
couple that was in the book I anyway

1652
01:29:59,109 --> 01:29:57,110
without getting into the details of this

1653
01:30:04,180 --> 01:29:59,119
but one of the things that they

1654
01:30:07,359 --> 01:30:04,190
described in their encounter was these

1655
01:30:10,779 --> 01:30:07,369
little beings that came through the

1656
01:30:13,120 --> 01:30:10,789
shrub that were short with red eyes and

1657
01:30:15,850 --> 01:30:13,130
they looked out through the grass and

1658
01:30:18,689 --> 01:30:15,860
there was a lot of them approaching them

1659
01:30:23,709 --> 01:30:18,699
also there was a pickup truck involved

1660
01:30:25,330 --> 01:30:23,719
another similarity kind of strange yeah

1661
01:30:28,419 --> 01:30:25,340
yeah you might want to go and check that

1662
01:30:30,549 --> 01:30:28,429
out and and there are some similarities

1663
01:30:33,609 --> 01:30:30,559
there and if you want to make contact I

1664
01:30:35,350 --> 01:30:33,619
can put you in touch with them but yeah

1665
01:30:36,790 --> 01:30:35,360
definitely check out I'm listening to

1666
01:30:39,939 --> 01:30:36,800
this and I'm thinking about the Mojave

1667
01:30:44,080 --> 01:30:39,949
incident and I am sure that this is

1668
01:30:47,049 --> 01:30:44,090
gonna pop up in Twitter now shifting

1669
01:30:49,390 --> 01:30:47,059
gears and I'm looking at the clock and I

1670
01:30:52,029 --> 01:30:49,400
can't believe that two hours of has gone

1671
01:30:56,549 --> 01:30:52,039
by already so quickly

1672
01:30:59,500 --> 01:30:56,559
do you anticipate just like with Fatima

1673
01:31:02,169 --> 01:30:59,510
do you anticipate contact with the

1674
01:31:06,970 --> 01:31:02,179
Vatican or have you had direct contact

1675
01:31:08,100 --> 01:31:06,980
with the Vatican well I can't say that

1676
01:31:13,000 --> 01:31:08,110
[Music]

1677
01:31:16,589 --> 01:31:13,010
remember dr. pessoa is is their Catholic

1678
01:31:21,879 --> 01:31:16,599
and has connections with the Vatican and

1679
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:21,889
she she was allowed into the Vatican

1680
01:31:27,129 --> 01:31:24,530
archives and she's my study partner

1681
01:31:29,950 --> 01:31:27,139
remember I'm working with her and had

1682
01:31:34,360 --> 01:31:29,960
been for a long time on ace

1683
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:34,370
your project and so she was allowed to

1684
01:31:40,900 --> 01:31:37,850
take a couple of people with her to the

1685
01:31:42,430 --> 01:31:40,910
Vatican and they had a ceremony and my

1686
01:31:45,150 --> 01:31:42,440
honor believe it or not

1687
01:31:50,140 --> 01:31:45,160
where they were a bunch of people

1688
01:31:53,500 --> 01:31:50,150
priests and they put my picture in the

1689
01:31:56,350 --> 01:31:53,510
picture of the Pope's picture at the

1690
01:32:01,690 --> 01:31:56,360
entrance of going into the Vatican

1691
01:32:05,200 --> 01:32:01,700
archive so it's all done and Diana sent

1692
01:32:10,180 --> 01:32:05,210
me some photos from there and told me

1693
01:32:14,140 --> 01:32:10,190
that that that the Pope had recommended

1694
01:32:17,979 --> 01:32:14,150
them for me to look at and they were of

1695
01:32:20,709 --> 01:32:17,989
orbs and angels coming out of orbs and

1696
01:32:23,290 --> 01:32:20,719
they were of Saint Francis of Assissi

1697
01:32:26,380 --> 01:32:23,300
and now he had the stigmata and he

1698
01:32:29,890 --> 01:32:26,390
actually ended up dying from it but in

1699
01:32:32,910 --> 01:32:29,900
today's lens that would be rheumatoid

1700
01:32:36,280 --> 01:32:32,920
which I have come down with so he

1701
01:32:40,390 --> 01:32:36,290
essentially they were warning me from

1702
01:32:42,700 --> 01:32:40,400
the vatican diana was to not let the

1703
01:32:45,100 --> 01:32:42,710
orbs get but so close that they don't

1704
01:32:48,010 --> 01:32:45,110
they don't realize their harm in the

1705
01:32:52,110 --> 01:32:48,020
human body but the plasma from these

1706
01:32:55,479 --> 01:32:52,120
things it's very hot and could cause

1707
01:32:58,270 --> 01:32:55,489
what i have rheumatoid arthritis or

1708
01:33:00,430 --> 01:32:58,280
because my hands had just lost use of my

1709
01:33:05,350 --> 01:33:00,440
hands for the longest time I couldn't

1710
01:33:08,550 --> 01:33:05,360
tie my shoes so yeah there's I haven't

1711
01:33:13,750 --> 01:33:08,560
been there but they know me through

1712
01:33:18,670 --> 01:33:13,760
Diana and her contacts and a project

1713
01:33:22,510 --> 01:33:18,680
that she's working on would you reveal

1714
01:33:25,360 --> 01:33:22,520
to the Vatican what the lady said to you

1715
01:33:34,300 --> 01:33:25,370
like the three children did in Fatima

1716
01:33:38,130 --> 01:33:34,310
yes yes I haven't but I will okay the if

1717
01:33:42,160 --> 01:33:38,140
I'm asked right sure sure sure of course

1718
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:42,170
the other part that I find interesting

1719
01:33:47,250 --> 01:33:43,370
is that

1720
01:33:51,970 --> 01:33:47,260
to the best of your recollection that

1721
01:33:58,210 --> 01:33:51,980
these orbs are appearing in threes the

1722
01:34:03,220 --> 01:33:58,220
number shall be three right has aside

1723
01:34:07,480 --> 01:34:03,230
from the cigar shaped pipe craft I have

1724
01:34:11,770 --> 01:34:07,490
they always appeared in threes yes

1725
01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:11,780
usually not always but 99% of the time

1726
01:34:18,640 --> 01:34:15,890
they'll be if I see one I'll see three

1727
01:34:21,340 --> 01:34:18,650
that night like all in a matter of

1728
01:34:25,510 --> 01:34:21,350
minutes they'll appear three together or

1729
01:34:28,360 --> 01:34:25,520
three in a row but it's usually three

1730
01:34:30,970 --> 01:34:28,370
why why do you think that is Chris I

1731
01:34:34,390 --> 01:34:30,980
don't know other than maybe it

1732
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:34,400
represents something of divine nature

1733
01:34:42,900 --> 01:34:36,890
like the Trinity or the size of the

1734
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:47,940
the natural creation of life or the

1735
01:34:56,740 --> 01:34:50,570
universal creation of life you might say

1736
01:34:59,400 --> 01:34:56,750
have you ever seen something inside of

1737
01:35:06,040 --> 01:35:02,920
yeah I've seen picture faces in them

1738
01:35:09,250 --> 01:35:06,050
I've seen entities in them I've seen him

1739
01:35:11,860 --> 01:35:09,260
come out of orbs I have a video of an

1740
01:35:16,150 --> 01:35:11,870
entity coming out of an org completely

1741
01:35:18,910 --> 01:35:16,160
out there's one of my facebook of an orb

1742
01:35:21,880 --> 01:35:18,920
flying behind Laurie Wagner she's

1743
01:35:24,190 --> 01:35:21,890
standing there our friend Craig

1744
01:35:28,210 --> 01:35:24,200
Campobasso he's a casting director he

1745
01:35:30,670 --> 01:35:28,220
saw the orb flash and threw his camera

1746
01:35:33,100 --> 01:35:30,680
up and this orb clue behind Laurie and

1747
01:35:36,370 --> 01:35:33,110
their hands reaching out of it towards

1748
01:35:39,720 --> 01:35:36,380
he and I in the camera that Craig and

1749
01:35:42,820 --> 01:35:39,730
Laurie have never told me about this

1750
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:42,830
well they've had it secret there's a lot

1751
01:35:50,500 --> 01:35:47,330
of things you know she's listening right

1752
01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:50,510
now Laurie and we talked earlier today

1753
01:35:54,340 --> 01:35:52,610
about other stuff believe it or not

1754
01:35:55,590 --> 01:35:54,350
Chris we didn't talk about you today

1755
01:36:00,230 --> 01:35:55,600
we talked too

1756
01:36:02,790 --> 01:36:00,240
but she's never told me about this

1757
01:36:04,760 --> 01:36:02,800
Casso you know okay

1758
01:36:06,360 --> 01:36:04,770
Laurie expect that phone call tomorrow

1759
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:06,370
just be ready

1760
01:36:14,100 --> 01:36:09,090
no I didn't I did not know about this

1761
01:36:18,810 --> 01:36:14,110
the the reason why I'm wondering I've

1762
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:18,820
had other witnesses and experiencers on

1763
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:23,710
the show talk about orbs that seem to

1764
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:27,970
have something inside of it controlling

1765
01:36:35,940 --> 01:36:32,590
it right almost like flying it yeah is

1766
01:36:37,410 --> 01:36:35,950
is that what you're suggesting here well

1767
01:36:40,440 --> 01:36:37,420
absolutely

1768
01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:40,450
very interesting yeah they're they're

1769
01:36:46,620 --> 01:36:44,950
either they can either machines can come

1770
01:36:51,960 --> 01:36:46,630
out of these things I've seen them turn

1771
01:36:55,490 --> 01:36:51,970
into a craft from a tiny orb to a big

1772
01:36:59,310 --> 01:36:55,500
crash to a Volkswagen sighs to a house

1773
01:37:02,400 --> 01:36:59,320
they can grow that big that quick or it

1774
01:37:07,590 --> 01:37:02,410
can just appear as a as a ball of light

1775
01:37:10,140 --> 01:37:07,600
and and only be a very just a blink and

1776
01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:10,150
come on in front of you get big as a

1777
01:37:15,450 --> 01:37:13,570
beach ball and go off and they can do

1778
01:37:17,640 --> 01:37:15,460
all kinds of things but I have a video

1779
01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,650
I've seen you of a being coming out of

1780
01:37:24,470 --> 01:37:19,840
an orb and it's been looked at by some

1781
01:37:27,900 --> 01:37:24,480
of the best and nobody has been able to

1782
01:37:30,150 --> 01:37:27,910
did get bucket okay you've got three

1783
01:37:33,060 --> 01:37:30,160
videos now that you're sending me I hope

1784
01:37:38,000 --> 01:37:33,070
you're taking notes but then the numbers

1785
01:37:44,300 --> 01:37:38,010
shall be three the number shall be three

1786
01:37:46,920 --> 01:37:44,310
okay now is staying on this the I had

1787
01:37:52,610 --> 01:37:46,930
again I don't want to ask a leading

1788
01:38:00,720 --> 01:37:56,060
a call or a witness on the show

1789
01:38:03,150 --> 01:38:00,730
described a ball I had two different two

1790
01:38:05,880 --> 01:38:03,160
different two completely different

1791
01:38:08,880 --> 01:38:05,890
situations about a year apart that were

1792
01:38:09,180 --> 01:38:08,890
oddly similar I'm gonna leave the one

1793
01:38:11,430 --> 01:38:09,190
with

1794
01:38:13,500 --> 01:38:11,440
police officer off to the side and he's

1795
01:38:17,160 --> 01:38:13,510
probably listening right now I'm gonna

1796
01:38:21,240 --> 01:38:17,170
go to the other one where this witness

1797
01:38:24,090 --> 01:38:21,250
said he came out of his house and there

1798
01:38:27,590 --> 01:38:24,100
was coming up his street and he

1799
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:27,600
described it about six to ten feet round

1800
01:38:35,370 --> 01:38:32,770
clear illuminated sphere going up his

1801
01:38:39,330 --> 01:38:35,380
street and in the middle of the sphere

1802
01:38:43,050 --> 01:38:39,340
was a little alien guy like sitting in a

1803
01:38:45,330 --> 01:38:43,060
seat holding on to controls and there

1804
01:38:47,970 --> 01:38:45,340
were sparks coming and it was like

1805
01:38:51,600 --> 01:38:47,980
rolling like a bike tire but it's a ball

1806
01:38:54,720 --> 01:38:51,610
and this being was in the inside of it

1807
01:38:56,790 --> 01:38:54,730
went up the street took a turn went into

1808
01:38:59,580 --> 01:38:56,800
an empty lot where they were building a

1809
01:39:03,930 --> 01:38:59,590
house the neighbors and him ran down the

1810
01:39:06,900 --> 01:39:03,940
street and looked and this sphere rolled

1811
01:39:10,530 --> 01:39:06,910
into a craft there was a craft waiting

1812
01:39:13,439 --> 01:39:10,540
for this other sphere now when I

1813
01:39:15,660 --> 01:39:13,449
described something like that to you is

1814
01:39:19,200 --> 01:39:15,670
this similar to what you have been

1815
01:39:21,500 --> 01:39:19,210
seeing in North Carolina um pretty much

1816
01:39:24,510 --> 01:39:21,510
yeah

1817
01:39:27,209 --> 01:39:24,520
I've never seen one roll down the street

1818
01:39:31,740 --> 01:39:27,219
and roll into another one but I've seen

1819
01:39:36,780 --> 01:39:31,750
many orbs that appear just appear

1820
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:36,790
well for example lori wagner and her

1821
01:39:45,090 --> 01:39:42,070
daughter gabby a few years ago I was in

1822
01:39:49,020 --> 01:39:45,100
Encinitas visiting actually we were

1823
01:39:51,120 --> 01:39:49,030
going to see Tom dan Houser and Lord

1824
01:39:52,950 --> 01:39:51,130
picked me up from the airport myself and

1825
01:39:55,530 --> 01:39:52,960
another guy and we went out on the beach

1826
01:39:58,350 --> 01:39:55,540
and and I just got this little message

1827
01:40:00,990 --> 01:39:58,360
on the way to the beach it Encinitas to

1828
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:01,000
tow Gabby that her daughter that she was

1829
01:40:04,200 --> 01:40:02,650
going to have an experience tonight I

1830
01:40:06,510 --> 01:40:04,210
just heard it you're gonna have

1831
01:40:09,180 --> 01:40:06,520
experience at night Gabby and I told her

1832
01:40:12,689 --> 01:40:09,190
and print everybody and no longer than

1833
01:40:14,850 --> 01:40:12,699
five minutes after we stopped and looked

1834
01:40:16,709 --> 01:40:14,860
out this orange orb appears and then

1835
01:40:17,700 --> 01:40:16,719
another orange orb appears and they look

1836
01:40:19,979 --> 01:40:17,710
really big

1837
01:40:22,690 --> 01:40:19,989
in a way offshore on the Pacific and

1838
01:40:24,550 --> 01:40:22,700
they kept appearing here and there they

1839
01:40:26,650 --> 01:40:24,560
go out and come on in a different place

1840
01:40:29,650 --> 01:40:26,660
and we watched it for a good 45 minutes

1841
01:40:32,170 --> 01:40:29,660
and been a long day flying we're just

1842
01:40:34,450 --> 01:40:32,180
going to get in the hotel and so we

1843
01:40:36,670 --> 01:40:34,460
decided that was a good show it was

1844
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:36,680
truly an unknown it was just big orange

1845
01:40:42,130 --> 01:40:38,810
orbs and when we turned our back to the

1846
01:40:44,530 --> 01:40:42,140
sea and started towards the car they

1847
01:40:47,920 --> 01:40:44,540
came very slowly off the ocean went

1848
01:40:50,830 --> 01:40:47,930
right over our heads and they went

1849
01:40:52,420 --> 01:40:50,840
together as one I had a pair of

1850
01:40:55,180 --> 01:40:52,430
night-vision goggles there were lawyers

1851
01:40:56,950 --> 01:40:55,190
and I had Eve just kid to see them in

1852
01:40:58,750 --> 01:40:56,960
their grand view through that thing and

1853
01:41:01,510 --> 01:40:58,760
they were just above our heads I mean

1854
01:41:06,760 --> 01:41:01,520
not very high at all but they looked

1855
01:41:10,930 --> 01:41:06,770
like a water drop almost translucent but

1856
01:41:13,240 --> 01:41:10,940
big like really big I don't know how big

1857
01:41:15,370 --> 01:41:13,250
I would say they were probably 30 or 40

1858
01:41:18,700 --> 01:41:15,380
feet if you were standing beside them

1859
01:41:22,090 --> 01:41:18,710
each and they looked like a translucent

1860
01:41:24,250 --> 01:41:22,100
drop of water and kind of moved that way

1861
01:41:27,610 --> 01:41:24,260
they moved like a glob of water would

1862
01:41:29,470 --> 01:41:27,620
kind of Wiggly or jiggly and right when

1863
01:41:30,940 --> 01:41:29,480
they got over top of us a couple of

1864
01:41:33,670 --> 01:41:30,950
hundred feet over our head they were

1865
01:41:37,450 --> 01:41:33,680
glowing this pill white not orange

1866
01:41:40,270 --> 01:41:37,460
anymore they went together like one

1867
01:41:44,170 --> 01:41:40,280
water dropped to another would just come

1868
01:41:46,450 --> 01:41:44,180
together they did that and and then it

1869
01:41:49,270 --> 01:41:46,460
shot off like out of a cannon towards

1870
01:41:51,690 --> 01:41:49,280
San Diego just right in front of us

1871
01:41:54,820 --> 01:41:51,700
right over our head and that was classic

1872
01:41:57,700 --> 01:41:54,830
but that was the only time I've seen one

1873
01:42:02,770 --> 01:41:57,710
really join another and it did it really

1874
01:42:05,560 --> 01:42:02,780
close we're gonna take a break Kristen

1875
01:42:10,270 --> 01:42:05,570
we're gonna head into overtime and when

1876
01:42:13,900 --> 01:42:10,280
we come back there is always the

1877
01:42:15,850 --> 01:42:13,910
question of evidence yeah okay videos

1878
01:42:18,340 --> 01:42:15,860
and pictures and eyewitness testimony

1879
01:42:21,040 --> 01:42:18,350
but there's always did you get a an

1880
01:42:23,770 --> 01:42:21,050
alien t-shirt did you grab a pen when

1881
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:23,780
you were inside of the craft did you did

1882
01:42:36,510 --> 01:42:34,920
you were given something and when we

1883
01:42:40,200 --> 01:42:36,520
come back we're gonna talk about this

1884
01:42:44,660 --> 01:42:40,210
but and we're gonna save what it was

1885
01:42:47,190 --> 01:42:44,670
till after the break but this object

1886
01:42:48,510 --> 01:42:47,200
again don't don't give it away Chris

1887
01:42:54,090 --> 01:42:48,520
let's talk about it when you come back

1888
01:42:56,070 --> 01:42:54,100
but when this was given to you were you

1889
01:42:59,840 --> 01:42:56,080
hoping that you would be able to show

1890
01:43:02,550 --> 01:42:59,850
this to somebody at a later date I

1891
01:43:04,530 --> 01:43:02,560
actually didn't remember it for the

1892
01:43:06,060 --> 01:43:04,540
first night after having such an

1893
01:43:09,480 --> 01:43:06,070
experience

1894
01:43:11,880 --> 01:43:09,490
that followed right right that that blew

1895
01:43:15,900 --> 01:43:11,890
my mind so that I didn't check where I

1896
01:43:17,550 --> 01:43:15,910
put the thing that night okay let's stop

1897
01:43:21,140 --> 01:43:17,560
right there let's see let's just stop

1898
01:43:23,970 --> 01:43:21,150
because this is absolutely amazing and

1899
01:43:25,320 --> 01:43:23,980
it's a nice tease we call that a tease

1900
01:43:28,980 --> 01:43:25,330
and radio Chris

1901
01:43:32,460 --> 01:43:28,990
so let's tease everybody and we'll tell

1902
01:43:34,020 --> 01:43:32,470
you all about what this was and is when

1903
01:43:36,480 --> 01:43:34,030
we come back after the break our guest

1904
01:43:38,280 --> 01:43:36,490
tonight is Chris bludsoe what a great

1905
01:43:40,860 --> 01:43:38,290
conversation Chris and thank you so much

1906
01:43:42,960 --> 01:43:40,870
for taking the time and we will be doing

1907
01:43:45,450 --> 01:43:42,970
overtime when we come back this is fade

1908
01:43:49,140 --> 01:43:45,460
to black I'm in OCME church and the game

1909
01:43:50,610 --> 01:43:49,150
changer network and kgr a the planet you

1910
01:43:52,710 --> 01:43:50,620
should see what's going on in Twitter

1911
01:43:56,040 --> 01:43:52,720
follow me in Twitter I J Church radio

1912
01:43:56,640 --> 01:43:56,050
and then go to hashtag f2b it's been a

1913
01:43:58,590 --> 01:43:56,650
fun night

1914
01:44:11,190 --> 01:43:58,600
we'll be right back stay with us

1915
01:44:15,760 --> 01:44:13,900
what a great conversation tonight

1916
01:44:18,190 --> 01:44:15,770
I know all of you have been enjoying

1917
01:44:20,160 --> 01:44:18,200
this our guest tonight is Chris Blood so

1918
01:44:23,470 --> 01:44:20,170
tomorrow night Bob McGuire is here

1919
01:44:25,450 --> 01:44:23,480
Wednesday night dr. Diana pisanka you

1920
01:44:27,550 --> 01:44:25,460
guys have been waiting for this it's

1921
01:44:29,230 --> 01:44:27,560
gonna go down on Wednesday night and

1922
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:29,240
then Thursday night is fate or night

1923
01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:31,610
with open lines all night long

1924
01:44:35,080 --> 01:44:33,320
our guest tonight of course is Chris

1925
01:44:38,020 --> 01:44:35,090
Bledsoe it's a continuation of our

1926
01:44:40,450 --> 01:44:38,030
conversation from last week and not only

1927
01:44:43,450 --> 01:44:40,460
did we leave a lot on the table last

1928
01:44:45,190 --> 01:44:43,460
week but I had so many questions that I

1929
01:44:47,050 --> 01:44:45,200
needed to get out and I just thought

1930
01:44:50,170 --> 01:44:47,060
about things all week and one of the

1931
01:44:52,180 --> 01:44:50,180
things that I don't do here Chris is I

1932
01:44:54,130 --> 01:44:52,190
don't have a list of questions I don't

1933
01:44:57,030 --> 01:44:54,140
do that it's just you and I having a

1934
01:45:01,750 --> 01:44:57,040
conversation but there was things that

1935
01:45:04,870 --> 01:45:01,760
we got done last week I was like oh you

1936
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:04,880
know and and one of the things that we

1937
01:45:12,540 --> 01:45:06,890
didn't get to last week which I want to

1938
01:45:15,610 --> 01:45:12,550
discuss now is you were given something

1939
01:45:18,160 --> 01:45:15,620
and your description of it which you're

1940
01:45:20,110 --> 01:45:18,170
gonna do here in a second left me

1941
01:45:24,240 --> 01:45:20,120
floored I couldn't

1942
01:45:27,100 --> 01:45:24,250
I tried to picture this in my mind's eye

1943
01:45:30,610 --> 01:45:27,110
and you described it you know quite well

1944
01:45:33,580 --> 01:45:30,620
but it is difficult and certainly if

1945
01:45:37,510 --> 01:45:33,590
it's an alien object we wouldn't have

1946
01:45:44,530 --> 01:45:37,520
any way to relate to it what were you

1947
01:45:47,100 --> 01:45:44,540
given I was given this object that the

1948
01:45:52,030 --> 01:45:47,110
best way I can describe it if you buy

1949
01:45:55,510 --> 01:45:52,040
from the grocery store a pop pound pack

1950
01:45:59,440 --> 01:45:55,520
of hamburger that's that's in a tube you

1951
01:46:02,320 --> 01:45:59,450
know not not in a box with styrofoam or

1952
01:46:05,020 --> 01:46:02,330
with cellophane ever but a tube of

1953
01:46:07,870 --> 01:46:05,030
hamburger or a sausage of pack of

1954
01:46:13,270 --> 01:46:07,880
sausage it was it was shaped like a pill

1955
01:46:16,390 --> 01:46:13,280
pill shaped but but big is a small like

1956
01:46:19,300 --> 01:46:16,400
a dog and in fact they've felt to me

1957
01:46:21,910 --> 01:46:19,310
like it was a living it was dark when

1958
01:46:23,410 --> 01:46:21,920
they handed it to me it felt like it had

1959
01:46:27,310 --> 01:46:23,420
fur

1960
01:46:30,760 --> 01:46:27,320
felt I was feeling bones and ribs of

1961
01:46:32,560 --> 01:46:30,770
something alive but I couldn't see I hit

1962
01:46:36,430 --> 01:46:32,570
her tail and it's frightened me so I

1963
01:46:40,330 --> 01:46:36,440
dropped it and I picked it back up and

1964
01:46:42,220 --> 01:46:40,340
immediately I tried to to not let it get

1965
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:42,230
away I didn't know because they told me

1966
01:46:46,750 --> 01:46:44,090
they said this is yours you must keep

1967
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:46,760
you got to keep this so up in this

1968
01:46:53,200 --> 01:46:49,489
kennel door and I set it in the door and

1969
01:46:56,590 --> 01:46:53,210
when I closed the doors when this blast

1970
01:47:01,570 --> 01:46:56,600
of wind came and then this beautiful

1971
01:47:03,340 --> 01:47:01,580
lady came from out of this cow bulls the

1972
01:47:05,770 --> 01:47:03,350
only way I couldn't describe it a bull

1973
01:47:09,939 --> 01:47:05,780
came out of there out of the wind I have

1974
01:47:12,070 --> 01:47:09,949
a whole brand me over and when I hit on

1975
01:47:16,600 --> 01:47:12,080
my back and I turned to my stomach

1976
01:47:18,580 --> 01:47:16,610
there's this lady and I never thought

1977
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:18,590
any more about what it was they gave me

1978
01:47:25,570 --> 01:47:20,480
I didn't think about it that night I was

1979
01:47:29,399 --> 01:47:25,580
just so blown away and everything is

1980
01:47:33,820 --> 01:47:29,409
just had happen and what she told me

1981
01:47:36,070 --> 01:47:33,830
that I was I was not thinking about this

1982
01:47:39,790 --> 01:47:36,080
object so I go back the next day looking

1983
01:47:43,180 --> 01:47:39,800
for tonight's not there and I never did

1984
01:47:48,609 --> 01:47:43,190
figure out for the longest time what it

1985
01:47:50,859 --> 01:47:48,619
was that was a gave me but she told me

1986
01:47:54,100 --> 01:47:50,869
when the time was right that they would

1987
01:47:57,760 --> 01:47:54,110
give me the information I needed to move

1988
01:48:01,090 --> 01:47:57,770
forward and they would help me and they

1989
01:48:04,689 --> 01:48:01,100
have been in fact all these videos and

1990
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:04,699
photos came after she came the ability

1991
01:48:11,560 --> 01:48:08,090
to help others came after she came the

1992
01:48:15,459 --> 01:48:11,570
ability to show others share this with

1993
01:48:17,709 --> 01:48:15,469
others came only after she came nothing

1994
01:48:20,859 --> 01:48:17,719
before for five years nothing no

1995
01:48:24,310 --> 01:48:20,869
pictures hardly without it damaging my

1996
01:48:28,930 --> 01:48:24,320
camera but but one thing I got from her

1997
01:48:33,189 --> 01:48:28,940
that this object represented the

1998
01:48:36,129 --> 01:48:33,199
direction of man that we were living

1999
01:48:37,189 --> 01:48:36,139
with no Direction no forward or no

2000
01:48:40,910 --> 01:48:37,199
backwards no

2001
01:48:44,570 --> 01:48:40,920
no way and that's the only thing I can

2002
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:44,580
figure that came that I'm satisfied with

2003
01:48:50,810 --> 01:48:47,610
what it meant I never saw it again after

2004
01:48:53,419 --> 01:48:50,820
that first night some friends of mine

2005
01:48:56,180 --> 01:48:53,429
said oh yeah it was probably a device

2006
01:48:59,300 --> 01:48:56,190
that open the portal because the lady

2007
01:49:01,760 --> 01:48:59,310
who came out come out you know and I've

2008
01:49:05,030 --> 01:49:01,770
heard that mentioned but I don't know I

2009
01:49:08,240 --> 01:49:05,040
just know it came she came and it

2010
01:49:12,410 --> 01:49:08,250
changed my life were you were you

2011
01:49:15,860 --> 01:49:12,420
conscious was this a conscious event yes

2012
01:49:17,540 --> 01:49:15,870
you weren't dreaming no I was conscious

2013
01:49:22,300 --> 01:49:17,550
I got out of bed at 3 o'clock in the

2014
01:49:25,220 --> 01:49:22,310
morning I was let out in the darkness to

2015
01:49:28,959 --> 01:49:25,230
to the dog kennel exactly where Chris

2016
01:49:31,370 --> 01:49:28,969
jr. and I was standing when rosie was

2017
01:49:34,669 --> 01:49:31,380
barking in the bushes that night where

2018
01:49:38,209 --> 01:49:34,679
the little bean was behind the dog

2019
01:49:41,330 --> 01:49:38,219
kennel exactly where Lori was standing

2020
01:49:43,880 --> 01:49:41,340
in that photo when Craig took it of the

2021
01:49:47,090 --> 01:49:43,890
entity and ordered the hands coming out

2022
01:49:54,709 --> 01:49:47,100
all in that area things tend to to

2023
01:49:57,830 --> 01:49:54,719
happen a lot the the description of the

2024
01:50:02,660 --> 01:49:57,840
the bull right appearing in front of you

2025
01:50:05,870 --> 01:50:02,670
from the wind running over you right

2026
01:50:11,530 --> 01:50:05,880
knocking you down you look up and and

2027
01:50:13,939 --> 01:50:11,540
this this woman came from or

2028
01:50:18,919 --> 01:50:13,949
transitioned from the cow into this

2029
01:50:20,030 --> 01:50:18,929
being almost almost sounds dreamlike and

2030
01:50:24,260 --> 01:50:20,040
I know you understand what I'm

2031
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:24,270
suggesting here because it is it's a

2032
01:50:33,260 --> 01:50:27,840
it's an it's an amazing visual but it

2033
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:33,270
almost feels dreamlike and then you

2034
01:50:39,770 --> 01:50:36,690
given you were given this this object

2035
01:50:43,400 --> 01:50:39,780
when you felt the reason why I'm asking

2036
01:50:48,850 --> 01:50:43,410
if you were conscious you felt the fur

2037
01:50:52,729 --> 01:50:48,860
but also you described it as

2038
01:50:55,400 --> 01:50:52,739
like thorns you know or prickly right

2039
01:50:57,470 --> 01:50:55,410
yes the fur was kind of prickly on it

2040
01:50:59,960 --> 01:50:57,480
and of course I didn't know what I had

2041
01:51:02,930 --> 01:50:59,970
in my hand and it dark and me in the

2042
01:51:05,600 --> 01:51:02,940
woods and this thing was given to me and

2043
01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:05,610
it really scared me to start with and

2044
01:51:11,660 --> 01:51:08,970
feeling of it it felt prickly so

2045
01:51:14,210 --> 01:51:11,670
immediately but it felt like it had ribs

2046
01:51:16,720 --> 01:51:14,220
like a dog like if you were holding a

2047
01:51:19,580 --> 01:51:16,730
little chihuahua or something right

2048
01:51:22,460 --> 01:51:19,590
that's what it felt like a living being

2049
01:51:24,680 --> 01:51:22,470
and that's the part that suggests to me

2050
01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:24,690
that you were conscious right that this

2051
01:51:31,070 --> 01:51:26,730
was a real event because you physically

2052
01:51:33,170 --> 01:51:31,080
felt this object in your hands yeah I

2053
01:51:35,780 --> 01:51:33,180
physically felt it saw it and I walked

2054
01:51:39,110 --> 01:51:35,790
in the back door that morning after that

2055
01:51:41,890 --> 01:51:39,120
happens the I have a couple of questions

2056
01:51:46,100 --> 01:51:41,900
here in in Twitter that I want to get to

2057
01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:46,110
before we we end tonight and one of them

2058
01:51:55,270 --> 01:51:51,510
is this I can't read the name from

2059
01:52:00,229 --> 01:51:55,280
Azores or faxes or effects I don't know

2060
01:52:03,490 --> 01:52:00,239
is is there anything that seems to make

2061
01:52:07,250 --> 01:52:03,500
the activity more intense or more often

2062
01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:07,260
yes it always does

2063
01:52:17,120 --> 01:52:12,570
I find that talking about it if let's

2064
01:52:19,580 --> 01:52:17,130
say if you come here and we wanted to

2065
01:52:23,960 --> 01:52:19,590
see something I can't guarantee anybody

2066
01:52:27,140 --> 01:52:23,970
will see anything but usually if we're

2067
01:52:33,290 --> 01:52:27,150
all of the same mind we're all open and

2068
01:52:35,150 --> 01:52:33,300
not criticizing or not you know skeptic

2069
01:52:37,580 --> 01:52:35,160
because if you are you won't see

2070
01:52:40,010 --> 01:52:37,590
anything it just don't work that way but

2071
01:52:42,170 --> 01:52:40,020
if we all get of the same like in the

2072
01:52:46,400 --> 01:52:42,180
same mind and we start talking about it

2073
01:52:49,460 --> 01:52:46,410
and get excited it tends to get excited

2074
01:52:52,729 --> 01:52:49,470
too and what I mean by that is dr.

2075
01:52:54,920 --> 01:52:52,739
McGuire will describe it and his if he

2076
01:52:57,320 --> 01:52:54,930
talks about his experience and this has

2077
01:53:00,480 --> 01:52:57,330
happened with others not only does an

2078
01:53:03,630 --> 01:53:00,490
orb appear in the sky and and

2079
01:53:05,430 --> 01:53:03,640
visually appear and fly away and

2080
01:53:09,420 --> 01:53:05,440
disappear and that happened more than

2081
01:53:12,480 --> 01:53:09,430
once but it starts getting electric like

2082
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:12,490
in the air the orbs appear in the trees

2083
01:53:19,770 --> 01:53:15,010
and start flitting off little orbs the

2084
01:53:22,230 --> 01:53:19,780
size of a firefly they might start

2085
01:53:24,540 --> 01:53:22,240
shooting through the tops of the trees

2086
01:53:27,060 --> 01:53:24,550
or going down in my pond and leaving

2087
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:27,070
sparks as they go little small orbs and

2088
01:53:34,290 --> 01:53:31,570
and it just it's like the air gets

2089
01:53:36,210 --> 01:53:34,300
electrified I haven't felt it I told Bob

2090
01:53:38,970 --> 01:53:36,220
I'm feeling something right now and he

2091
01:53:39,870 --> 01:53:38,980
begins to describe this I'll let him

2092
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:39,880
tell about it

2093
01:53:46,410 --> 01:53:42,970
but it's not just one orb or one thing

2094
01:53:50,310 --> 01:53:46,420
it can really cause this whole

2095
01:53:53,010 --> 01:53:50,320
phenomenon to get so excited that orbs

2096
01:53:56,520 --> 01:53:53,020
start appearing in the trees up in the

2097
01:53:59,790 --> 01:53:56,530
air some fly right by us

2098
01:54:02,250 --> 01:53:59,800
Ryan's little Ginny first time she had

2099
01:54:04,320 --> 01:54:02,260
an experience we will she and Ron walk

2100
01:54:08,490 --> 01:54:04,330
out to the car and this orb appears

2101
01:54:10,530 --> 01:54:08,500
ground level or chest level real excited

2102
01:54:12,900 --> 01:54:10,540
and it sees her and it comes and flies

2103
01:54:16,980 --> 01:54:12,910
right by our face and goes by or scares

2104
01:54:19,080 --> 01:54:16,990
are the death but visible stuff not

2105
01:54:20,930 --> 01:54:19,090
something you take with a camera and you

2106
01:54:25,850 --> 01:54:20,940
see it later of course we get that too

2107
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:25,860
but we get these visible of light that

2108
01:54:35,610 --> 01:54:28,890
can be anything from a firefly to a

2109
01:54:39,600 --> 01:54:35,620
Volkswagen to a full-blown something

2110
01:54:42,150 --> 01:54:39,610
with metal inside you've described

2111
01:54:45,090 --> 01:54:42,160
Diana pessoa as your study partner but

2112
01:54:47,520 --> 01:54:45,100
you're also working on a project can you

2113
01:54:50,490 --> 01:54:47,530
describe that project for us what is it

2114
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:50,500
I can't say that's super top secret

2115
01:54:57,300 --> 01:54:53,050
right now this has been a seven-year

2116
01:54:59,720 --> 01:54:57,310
deal right and I've been forbidden to

2117
01:55:02,520 --> 01:54:59,730
say so I had to leave that to now

2118
01:55:04,980 --> 01:55:02,530
forbidden yeah for now

2119
01:55:06,720 --> 01:55:04,990
it's important that I don't say anything

2120
01:55:10,170 --> 01:55:06,730
about that right she's not that

2121
01:55:13,830 --> 01:55:10,180
intimidating crowd well I think it is

2122
01:55:20,630 --> 01:55:13,840
our is our mutual friends

2123
01:55:26,190 --> 01:55:23,310
well she'll be here Wednesday we'll see

2124
01:55:28,200 --> 01:55:26,200
what I can do about that the the

2125
01:55:32,600 --> 01:55:28,210
information that you've been given by

2126
01:55:35,940 --> 01:55:32,610
the lady and this stuff about the future

2127
01:55:38,070 --> 01:55:35,950
are you at some point are you going to

2128
01:55:42,960 --> 01:55:38,080
go completely public about it and the

2129
01:55:45,960 --> 01:55:42,970
reason why I ask is that if any of this

2130
01:55:48,960 --> 01:55:45,970
comes to pass and you speak about it

2131
01:55:51,890 --> 01:55:48,970
after the fact it doesn't mean anything

2132
01:55:57,720 --> 01:55:51,900
right we need it before these events

2133
01:56:00,180 --> 01:55:57,730
happen to to know that this was real and

2134
01:56:02,730 --> 01:56:00,190
you know for you and for the rest of the

2135
01:56:04,890 --> 01:56:02,740
world but do you anticipate going

2136
01:56:10,140 --> 01:56:04,900
completely public before this stuff

2137
01:56:13,320 --> 01:56:10,150
comes to pass I suppose I may I just

2138
01:56:17,610 --> 01:56:13,330
don't like - well yeah I probably will I

2139
01:56:19,830 --> 01:56:17,620
don't want to say anymore to - to give

2140
01:56:22,380 --> 01:56:19,840
any hint to which way it goes you know

2141
01:56:25,830 --> 01:56:22,390
is it positive or negative but some of

2142
01:56:28,710 --> 01:56:25,840
it this is negative or can be taken that

2143
01:56:33,380 --> 01:56:28,720
way but remember none of it has to

2144
01:56:37,380 --> 01:56:33,390
happen it all ends in a good shiny

2145
01:56:41,900 --> 01:56:37,390
peaceful era is all I can say and the

2146
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:41,910
women the women are going to rise up and

2147
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:43,290
[Music]

2148
01:56:48,420 --> 01:56:46,330
start running more of this this world

2149
01:56:55,230 --> 01:56:48,430
and I think pieces start coming

2150
01:56:55,980 --> 01:56:55,240
well we men asked for it so our fault no

2151
01:57:00,200 --> 01:56:55,990
doubt about that

2152
01:57:05,370 --> 01:57:00,210
and what about the way that you have

2153
01:57:09,350 --> 01:57:05,380
started to deal with debunkers and

2154
01:57:12,300 --> 01:57:09,360
critics because they can be very harsh

2155
01:57:16,260 --> 01:57:12,310
there's a lot of trolls out there too as

2156
01:57:17,240 --> 01:57:16,270
well that do their goal is to get under

2157
01:57:20,810 --> 01:57:17,250
your skin

2158
01:57:27,540 --> 01:57:20,820
how have you learn to deal with that

2159
01:57:33,240 --> 01:57:27,550
well basically after going quiet

2160
01:57:40,229 --> 01:57:33,250
being pulled into some very well let's

2161
01:57:44,250 --> 01:57:40,239
just say I've had the the the the chance

2162
01:57:47,629 --> 01:57:44,260
to or the honor I was such an honor I've

2163
01:57:52,620 --> 01:57:47,639
had the honor of studying with people

2164
01:57:56,970 --> 01:57:52,630
that the UFO world has no clue exists

2165
01:57:59,250 --> 01:57:56,980
and you know becoming friends with

2166
01:58:01,859 --> 01:57:59,260
people from these agencies from the

2167
01:58:05,010 --> 01:58:01,869
government that have been very nice to

2168
01:58:06,870 --> 01:58:05,020
my family and helped us more than you

2169
01:58:08,669 --> 01:58:06,880
know spend the trolls and the people

2170
01:58:10,470 --> 01:58:08,679
that are the problem it's not been the

2171
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:10,480
government and in fact when it first

2172
01:58:15,569 --> 01:58:13,690
happened when loop on left everybody was

2173
01:58:17,669 --> 01:58:15,579
saying oh my god the government will

2174
01:58:20,609 --> 01:58:17,679
kill you the men and black earth they're

2175
01:58:23,640 --> 01:58:20,619
going to get you so here we left with

2176
01:58:25,500 --> 01:58:23,650
the worry that the government and I

2177
01:58:27,270 --> 01:58:25,510
didn't know anything you know I just saw

2178
01:58:28,859 --> 01:58:27,280
lights in the sky but I can't talk about

2179
01:58:30,930 --> 01:58:28,869
it because the government might come

2180
01:58:34,080 --> 01:58:30,940
send the men and black I heard every

2181
01:58:35,870 --> 01:58:34,090
flippin thing you can think of until

2182
01:58:40,470 --> 01:58:35,880
these scientists come along and said hey

2183
01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:40,480
leave the UFO world along study with us

2184
01:58:48,000 --> 01:58:44,290
you got a chance to learn and to and to

2185
01:58:50,189 --> 01:58:48,010
be pulled into some circles and that's

2186
01:58:56,160 --> 01:58:50,199
what I did I got involved with people

2187
01:58:59,399 --> 01:58:56,170
that that have a lot of respect for that

2188
01:59:02,520 --> 01:58:59,409
the world only wishes they knew and and

2189
01:59:05,609 --> 01:59:02,530
I know things this this metal that's

2190
01:59:08,129 --> 01:59:05,619
going around the diner talks about in

2191
01:59:10,319 --> 01:59:08,139
her book it's very real just believe me

2192
01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:10,329
on that it's a hundred percent real

2193
01:59:15,899 --> 01:59:12,610
she's doing she's done what she says

2194
01:59:22,530 --> 01:59:15,909
she's done she's handled it I've handled

2195
01:59:25,350 --> 01:59:22,540
it and you know I'm I know the truth and

2196
01:59:28,080 --> 01:59:25,360
I've been with people that know it's

2197
01:59:31,260 --> 01:59:28,090
real let's just say that I can't say a

2198
01:59:33,359 --> 01:59:31,270
whole lot more but I you know having

2199
01:59:36,020 --> 01:59:33,369
that knowledge I have no time for those

2200
01:59:38,760 --> 01:59:36,030
people they're just being ignorant and

2201
01:59:41,040 --> 01:59:38,770
fact the NASA friend of mine told me a

2202
01:59:42,689 --> 01:59:41,050
long time ago he said Chris

2203
01:59:46,830 --> 01:59:42,699
some people don't have the mental

2204
01:59:50,250 --> 01:59:46,840
capacity after all the years of

2205
01:59:52,169 --> 01:59:50,260
brainwashing us all into saying laughing

2206
01:59:54,000 --> 01:59:52,179
at you but if you said I saw a ghost

2207
01:59:56,819 --> 01:59:54,010
what it used to be everybody it would

2208
01:59:59,040 --> 01:59:56,829
laugh at you right where I saw a UFO you

2209
02:00:02,160 --> 01:59:59,050
got laughed at now they're not laughing

2210
02:00:05,419 --> 02:00:02,170
so much but there are a few people still

2211
02:00:08,359 --> 02:00:05,429
out there that think they're smart and

2212
02:00:12,120 --> 02:00:08,369
have their agendas but they're just

2213
02:00:13,439 --> 02:00:12,130
uninformed they are totally uninformed I

2214
02:00:18,479 --> 02:00:13,449
can tell you

2215
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:18,489
way under uninformed the I want to go

2216
02:00:25,049 --> 02:00:20,650
back to the craft really quick we have

2217
02:00:30,060 --> 02:00:25,059
never discussed this during your

2218
02:00:31,740 --> 02:00:30,070
regression and your recall of being on

2219
02:00:35,640 --> 02:00:31,750
this craft you were assuming that you're

2220
02:00:37,859 --> 02:00:35,650
on the on the craft I've got a list of

2221
02:00:39,350 --> 02:00:37,869
questions really quick did it feel like

2222
02:00:43,010 --> 02:00:39,360
it was moving

2223
02:00:46,890 --> 02:00:43,020
no only from looking through the walls

2224
02:00:49,410 --> 02:00:46,900
the walls would at times be clear and

2225
02:00:51,959 --> 02:00:49,420
you could see through them like like

2226
02:00:54,089 --> 02:00:51,969
they wasn't even there but in no

2227
02:00:58,589 --> 02:00:54,099
movement I felt them they made at all

2228
02:01:03,839 --> 02:00:58,599
were you flying were you above the

2229
02:01:06,089 --> 02:01:03,849
ground could you look down on yes and

2230
02:01:10,109 --> 02:01:06,099
for that four and a half hours seemed

2231
02:01:13,040 --> 02:01:10,119
like four years actually or months time

2232
02:01:17,339 --> 02:01:13,050
there is a lot different than here and

2233
02:01:19,919 --> 02:01:17,349
you know what I saw they took me up high

2234
02:01:22,140 --> 02:01:19,929
and I could see things the whole thing

2235
02:01:26,790 --> 02:01:22,150
bursts basically I've told this before

2236
02:01:30,600 --> 02:01:26,800
was not nasty or physical or dirty no

2237
02:01:33,120 --> 02:01:30,610
anal probes no doctoring no scoop marks

2238
02:01:35,399 --> 02:01:33,130
no tearing off flesh nothing like that

2239
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:35,409
it was they brought me back without

2240
02:01:40,770 --> 02:01:38,290
Crohn's disease and the whole time I was

2241
02:01:45,899 --> 02:01:40,780
gone I was looking down at Earth from

2242
02:01:50,160 --> 02:01:45,909
above I saw Egypt and I saw the pyramids

2243
02:01:51,959 --> 02:01:50,170
and the Spinks pacing to the east and

2244
02:01:54,210 --> 02:01:51,969
this is one thing that's really weird

2245
02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:54,220
because they've told me

2246
02:02:00,570 --> 02:01:58,410
happened right away they told me of

2247
02:02:04,290 --> 02:02:00,580
significance of the Sphinx and the

2248
02:02:05,970 --> 02:02:04,300
pyramids and this red star regulus being

2249
02:02:08,520 --> 02:02:05,980
in the constellation of Leo

2250
02:02:11,700 --> 02:02:08,530
they said that Leo and the Sphinx

2251
02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:11,710
represented in other words of the the

2252
02:02:17,180 --> 02:02:13,450
body of the Sphinx represented the

2253
02:02:20,820 --> 02:02:17,190
constellation of Leo the head actually

2254
02:02:26,430 --> 02:02:20,830
represented the return of knowledge to

2255
02:02:28,470 --> 02:02:26,440
the people and they told me when when

2256
02:02:32,580 --> 02:02:28,480
the red star Regulus lines up on the

2257
02:02:34,770 --> 02:02:32,590
horizon facing the Sphynx before

2258
02:02:37,430 --> 02:02:34,780
daylight when that red star just breaks

2259
02:02:40,470 --> 02:02:37,440
the top of the ground before sunlight

2260
02:02:43,200 --> 02:02:40,480
that's when the shift would change so

2261
02:02:49,290 --> 02:02:43,210
this is some of the the stuff I got in

2262
02:02:54,020 --> 02:02:49,300
my first visit and I told that to some

2263
02:02:59,970 --> 02:02:57,060
astrological things a machine I guess

2264
02:03:04,200 --> 02:02:59,980
and it came out to be an actual date of

2265
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:04,210
September 23rd of 2026 when that would

2266
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:10,090
happen so that was my whole experience

2267
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:13,930
looking down from above flying inside a

2268
02:03:20,120 --> 02:03:17,050
craft with three of these very tall

2269
02:03:25,670 --> 02:03:20,130
beings that looked very shadowy looking

2270
02:03:33,420 --> 02:03:25,680
you said September 23rd of 2026

2271
02:03:37,380 --> 02:03:33,430
didn't you also you were told about the

2272
02:03:39,420 --> 02:03:37,390
earthquake in in Baja Mexico sure did it

2273
02:03:42,030 --> 02:03:39,430
was the same date of that year it was

2274
02:03:44,670 --> 02:03:42,040
the same date I've never I never made

2275
02:03:46,290 --> 02:03:44,680
the connection till right now I didn't

2276
02:03:49,590 --> 02:03:46,300
need her until you just said it this

2277
02:03:53,670 --> 02:03:49,600
time I heard that she was there and they

2278
02:03:56,700 --> 02:03:53,680
recorded it that day I told of an

2279
02:04:00,570 --> 02:03:56,710
earthquake in Baja California a 7.8

2280
02:04:04,020 --> 02:04:00,580
magnitude on September the 23rd and that

2281
02:04:07,919 --> 02:04:04,030
year that the the election would be

2282
02:04:10,379 --> 02:04:07,929
disrupted because of

2283
02:04:13,020 --> 02:04:10,389
weather phenomenon and sure enough

2284
02:04:15,299 --> 02:04:13,030
hurricane sandy flooded New York during

2285
02:04:20,279 --> 02:04:15,309
the election time in November remember

2286
02:04:22,770 --> 02:04:20,289
same year now the the mention of the

2287
02:04:27,359 --> 02:04:22,780
Baja earthquake being on September 23rd

2288
02:04:29,040 --> 02:04:27,369
and I am going to defer to my experts

2289
02:04:34,069 --> 02:04:29,050
here out here and fade to black The

2290
02:04:36,870 --> 02:04:34,079
Fader knots let's let's check out 2026

2291
02:04:39,359 --> 02:04:36,880
September 23rd 2026 and see where

2292
02:04:42,089 --> 02:04:39,369
Regulus is on that date that's going to

2293
02:04:44,790 --> 02:04:42,099
be very interesting going back to this

2294
02:04:47,250 --> 02:04:44,800
though you made this mention live in

2295
02:04:51,209 --> 02:04:47,260
public which was videotaped

2296
02:04:53,429 --> 02:04:51,219
in May and then May June July August

2297
02:04:56,910 --> 02:04:53,439
September five months later four months

2298
02:04:58,949 --> 02:04:56,920
later this 7.8 earthquake that you

2299
02:05:01,979 --> 02:04:58,959
mentioned in May actually happened on

2300
02:05:05,069 --> 02:05:01,989
that day didn't it sure did

2301
02:05:07,080 --> 02:05:05,079
where is this video can can we watch it

2302
02:05:11,910 --> 02:05:07,090
is it out there online what was the name

2303
02:05:19,770 --> 02:05:11,920
of the event as MUFON North Carolina and

2304
02:05:25,500 --> 02:05:19,780
it was it was in Asheville a May of 2012

2305
02:05:31,709 --> 02:05:25,510
I think May of 2012 yeah bill okay North

2306
02:05:36,359 --> 02:05:31,719
Carolina I had done a speech and since

2307
02:05:38,069 --> 02:05:36,369
you know the show until then and I

2308
02:05:41,009 --> 02:05:38,079
wouldn't have done it then and the lady

2309
02:05:42,959 --> 02:05:41,019
come but she said tell your story you

2310
02:05:46,739 --> 02:05:42,969
know why I'm here you got to tell your

2311
02:05:50,040 --> 02:05:46,749
story tell what you know and I'll help

2312
02:05:52,739 --> 02:05:50,050
you and sure enough two weeks later I

2313
02:05:57,290 --> 02:05:52,749
was in Nashville and there is daughter

2314
02:06:03,689 --> 02:05:57,300
for salka and I keep saying that because

2315
02:06:05,699 --> 02:06:03,699
it's ended up with she and I studying

2316
02:06:08,339 --> 02:06:05,709
together and may end up doing a pretty

2317
02:06:14,310 --> 02:06:08,349
big project together and it's all about

2318
02:06:17,660 --> 02:06:14,320
this all about telling it true what what

2319
02:06:20,500 --> 02:06:17,670
are going to be the effects of the

2320
02:06:23,830 --> 02:06:20,510
religious side of this

2321
02:06:29,110 --> 02:06:23,840
and I mean it like this because in the

2322
02:06:32,950 --> 02:06:29,120
past the the warning signs were always

2323
02:06:35,230 --> 02:06:32,960
laid out if the UFO phenomenon and and

2324
02:06:37,660 --> 02:06:35,240
these questions are revealed then then

2325
02:06:39,520 --> 02:06:37,670
the world collapses religions collapse

2326
02:06:40,990 --> 02:06:39,530
Wall Street well Wall Street collapse

2327
02:06:46,720 --> 02:06:41,000
today so we can take that one off the

2328
02:06:48,460 --> 02:06:46,730
list right but that the Vatican and

2329
02:06:51,460 --> 02:06:48,470
religions around the world will not be

2330
02:06:55,810 --> 02:06:51,470
able to handle this and those followers

2331
02:06:58,500 --> 02:06:55,820
of those religions are gonna go nuts if

2332
02:07:03,730 --> 02:06:58,510
everything that we are suggesting here

2333
02:07:07,450 --> 02:07:03,740
over the last week Chris does play

2334
02:07:08,710 --> 02:07:07,460
itself out what will happen I mean how

2335
02:07:12,750 --> 02:07:08,720
was the Vatican

2336
02:07:16,990 --> 02:07:12,760
how was Islam right how was everything

2337
02:07:20,440 --> 02:07:17,000
even India and Hinduism how how are they

2338
02:07:23,290 --> 02:07:20,450
going to be able to handle this well I

2339
02:07:27,750 --> 02:07:23,300
think they'll do like I did for the

2340
02:07:30,760 --> 02:07:27,760
first while that totally blew my faith

2341
02:07:34,570 --> 02:07:30,770
what I was taught don't clean out the

2342
02:07:38,890 --> 02:07:34,580
window it took me five years until the

2343
02:07:43,170 --> 02:07:38,900
lady came to know because I questioned

2344
02:07:45,550 --> 02:07:43,180
myself or the angels or the demons like

2345
02:07:48,280 --> 02:07:45,560
everybody's telling me well I was

2346
02:07:50,830 --> 02:07:48,290
praying to God that no demons come when

2347
02:07:54,790 --> 02:07:50,840
you prayed so I ruled that out I was

2348
02:07:57,400 --> 02:07:54,800
healed from Crohn's so everything kept

2349
02:07:59,440 --> 02:07:57,410
tipping and what I was thinking in my

2350
02:08:03,490 --> 02:07:59,450
heart who they were what I thought they

2351
02:08:06,670 --> 02:08:03,500
were and then when the lady came I knew

2352
02:08:09,460 --> 02:08:06,680
it was time to share the story now I

2353
02:08:12,310 --> 02:08:09,470
still can't tell you as Archangel

2354
02:08:15,340 --> 02:08:12,320
Gabriel from this place I can't tell you

2355
02:08:19,480 --> 02:08:15,350
that I can just tell you that it's all

2356
02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:19,490
in the Bible they perceived it as angels

2357
02:08:30,580 --> 02:08:23,470
it acts that way when it interacts with

2358
02:08:33,910 --> 02:08:30,590
with me it acts in that manner and I've

2359
02:08:37,660 --> 02:08:33,920
seen miracles happen with people seen

2360
02:08:44,350 --> 02:08:37,670
people made better by them I am recently

2361
02:08:46,240 --> 02:08:44,360
as well I mean very recently and so I

2362
02:08:49,470 --> 02:08:46,250
think that the church will come around

2363
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:49,480
and will be time to get off our

2364
02:08:54,850 --> 02:08:52,370
know-it-all you know they the church

2365
02:08:58,150 --> 02:08:54,860
seems to think they know everything but

2366
02:09:00,880 --> 02:08:58,160
they don't we all tend to think we know

2367
02:09:05,320 --> 02:09:00,890
it all but we don't it's time we all put

2368
02:09:07,470 --> 02:09:05,330
together and learn and I think the

2369
02:09:10,990 --> 02:09:07,480
answers are come but it's the apocalypse

2370
02:09:15,370 --> 02:09:11,000
that word is not the end of the world

2371
02:09:19,450 --> 02:09:15,380
that word means in Greek word means to

2372
02:09:22,660 --> 02:09:19,460
reveal the truth or to tell a secret so

2373
02:09:27,430 --> 02:09:22,670
I think the secrets been told is here

2374
02:09:34,090 --> 02:09:27,440
now was I'm gonna leave you on this last

2375
02:09:36,010 --> 02:09:34,100
question was Jesus an alien well I

2376
02:09:39,060 --> 02:09:36,020
wouldn't say he's an alien I don't like

2377
02:09:41,830 --> 02:09:39,070
that word alien is a bad word was he an

2378
02:09:45,490 --> 02:09:41,840
extraterrestrial that would be a good

2379
02:09:49,180 --> 02:09:45,500
thought he he was somebody that came

2380
02:09:51,610 --> 02:09:49,190
here that left a big mark on society and

2381
02:09:53,830 --> 02:09:51,620
told us how we should live you know he

2382
02:09:55,720 --> 02:09:53,840
said something that always got to me and

2383
02:09:57,760 --> 02:09:55,730
he said if you had the faith of a

2384
02:10:00,880 --> 02:09:57,770
mustard seed you could make a mountain

2385
02:10:06,189 --> 02:10:00,890
move so so what did he just say right

2386
02:10:08,620 --> 02:10:06,199
that we're in an illusion we must be and

2387
02:10:11,320 --> 02:10:08,630
seeing all these dogs and animals and

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people in these balls of light I began

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to wonder is the real world around us

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and we're just in a matrix of somehow

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temporary illusion I don't know Jimmy

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there's a lot to learn here I look to

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the experts I just want to share with

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the experts how it affects me and how it

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interacts and let them help us figure it

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Bob thank you so much Chris what an

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amazing you have a good time

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what a great conversation yeah

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absolutely

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you've got three videos to send me and

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then tomorrow we're gonna talk and I'm

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gonna get the big reveal okay you got

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one already on your cellphone I just

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texted it - oh did you really yeah hold

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on for a second hold on hold on hold on

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let me see oh I don't see it yet should

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be on your chest I'm on my text you just

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sent it to the NSA you sent it to the

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wrong Church here oh there it is no just

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popped in hahaha I got it thank you so

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much because I'll check it out here in a

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few minutes enjoy the rest of your night

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give my best to the family and we'll be

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speaking first thing tomorrow thank you

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so much Chris

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bludsoe now you can go I head over to

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Facebook we've got Chris's links over at

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Jimmy Church radio.com and you can go

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and follow and and interact with Chris

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right there on Facebook it's simple

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enough to do I got a lot of requests

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tonight from you out there wondering how

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to get ahold of Chris and you can do

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that right there on Facebook the links

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are over at Jimmy Church radio.com I

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want to remind everybody once again what

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is going on this week tomorrow night we

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have a bob Maguire here and then

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Wednesday night dr. Diana pisanka

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so we've got a very big busy week I'm

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fade to black and of course Thursday

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night we're gonna wrap up with Fator

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night and from this night forward we are

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now going to be broadcasting live on

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Facebook Twitter and YouTube and we are

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doing that for all of you okay and it is

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just something that we needed to do the

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technical side of this of pulling that

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off was very very difficult but new we

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are now heading out on 10 different live

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streams and syndication throughout the

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world with that I'm going to get out of

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here I want to thank our guest tonight

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Chris Bledsoe I am your host

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the church fade to black cigs ecute 'va

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everybody tomorrow night ba McGuire

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right here until then be safe

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go back leads happy